User talk:Tigerhawkvok

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Snake edit

I was very impressed by your picture in peer review so I decided to make an edit because I am fairly confident that this picture is FP material. For the edits I darkened the picture overall then darkened the blown out parts of the snake to get all the detail. To emphasize the dessert terrain I lightened the background. The reason for downsampling is that the people judging FPC are very strict on their sharpness so I added a layer of light sharpening and downsized it to make it appropriate. I hope you like the edit. BTW I was looking at your profile and saw that you're also majoring in physics. I'm in the class of '11 so I have a bit to go in the physics community. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Victorrocha (talk • contribs) 19:59, 18 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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A Desert Tortoise, state reptile of Nevada

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Final discussion for Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip 03:31, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Defining "monkey" and "simian"

Per your edit attempts on the Lemur article, your comments read: "Most recent phylogenies accept lorises and lemurs as a type of monkey, as distinguished from "simians"." I would like to know what "phylogenies" you are referring to. No academic literature for at least several hundred years has referred to lorises and lemurs as "types of monkey". They are "prosimians", which means "before monkeys". In fact, "monkey" is not even a very good term since the group of primates it describes is parayphyletic (not a single coherent phylogenetic group). Not all primates are monkeys. Since we're talking about simian vs. prosimian (as opposed to strepsirrhine vs. haplorrhine), then the order Primates is divided into: 1) simians, which includes include monkeys and apes (and implicitly humans), and 2) prosimians, which includes lorises, bushbabies, lemurs, and tarsiers. I hope this clears things up. – VisionHolder « talk » 03:26, 25 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You said so yourself -- conventionally, "monkey" is paraphyletic. However, if lemuriformes, lorisiformes, adapiformes, or Aye-Ayes accepted as monkeys, the only monophlyetic way to define monkeys includes all extant primates. The piece I read may have been a speculative phylogeny, however. Tigerhawkvok (talk) 00:02, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Monkey" is a paraphyletic group because it excludes apes (including humans), which evolved from that clade. The lemurs (and the Aye-aye), lorises, tarsiers, and adapiformes have nothing to do with it. Within infraorder Simiiformes, there are the platyrrhines (New World Monkeys) and the catarrhines (Old World Monkeys and apes). Apes are not considered monkeys, which creates the paraphyly. I hope that explains it better. Eventually we'll write articles for simian, monkey, and ape that better reflect this. Sorry we haven't gotten around to it yet. However, the Primate article, which is a featured article should mention this. – VisionHolder « talk » 00:37, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am fairly sure I've read at least one instance that called at least all of anthropoidea "monkeys", but I'll have to find that. I know that my copy of Benton 2005 supports your position, calling platyrrhines and cercopithecoidea "monkeys", and excluding hominoidea from that phraseology. Tigerhawkvok (talk) 09:01, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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