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Your submission at Articles for creation: S.U.F Helsinki (January 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Qcne was:

This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.

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Qcne (talk) 13:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Tlaine198! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Qcne (talk) 13:43, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:S.U.F Helsinki

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A tag has been placed on Draft:S.U.F Helsinki, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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Please stop. If you continue to add promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. JBW (talk) 20:47, 31 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Thanks for the feedback!

As mentioned in my page, i have a "conflict of interest" for this article. My good friend is working with SUF Helsinki and he asked if i can create wiki page for them.

I understand that the first draft was way too promotional (that i made last week) and i tried to make this new one as neutral as i can, obviously failing at it. Sorry about that.

Intention behind this is however good and i'm just trying to create informative wikipedia page that might help someone searching information about this brand.

If you have any suggestions on how to make it (even?) less promotial any advice is highly appreciated. If not, then i will leave this be - study more about writing proper wikipedia articles and hope that someone else decides to write about SUF Helsinki.

Thank you!

- Timo Tlaine198 (talk) 10:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Tlaine198

I think you may have Wikipedia backwards. We only have articles about topics that we deem are notable, and the contents of the article should be summarised or paraphrased from reliable, secondary, independent sources. You should therefore find those sources first, and then write the article based off the sources.

Writing for Wikipedia is difficult: because you should only be paraphrasing those sources it is important to keep the language dry, neutral, almost like an autopsy report. Check out WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK. Qcne (talk) 15:33, 8 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Thank you for your reply. Trying to put it into words; one should be interested about the topic, but still - preferably - have no opinion about it. Tlaine198 (talk) 05:30, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, yes. That can be quite difficult if you are close to the subject! Qcne (talk) 07:53, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]