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University of Florida Herbarium

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Speedy deletion nomination of University of Florida Herbarium

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A tag has been placed on University of Florida Herbarium requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. TreacherousWays (talk) 17:22, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the herbarium

Hi. I saw your article on University of Florida Herbarium, and it was I who nominated it for speedy deletion under the notability guidelines. Please don't take this the wrong way, but you've made no explanation as to why the Herbarium is noteworthy. Honestly, you've got no references, no links to other articles, and the institution you've named is a sub-institution of a sub-institution (University of Florida Herbarium < Department of Natural History < Florida Museum of Natural History). In particular, from the link I provided above: " ... An organization is generally considered notable if it has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources. Trivial or incidental coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not sufficient to establish notability. All content must be verifiable. If no independent, third-party, reliable sources can be found on a topic, then Wikipedia should not have an article on it ... " What I would suggest is that you move the article to your sandbox and work on it for a while, adding references and explaining why it is an institution worthy of note. I can't emphasize this enough: I am not disparaging the institution, I am suggesting that the article as written fails to establish why the institution is noteworthy under the guidelines established above. TreacherousWays (talk) 18:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a little stub of an article that at least offers a shred of information or two. It's awful, but it makes an argument for expansion. TreacherousWays (talk) 18:37, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But this is much more like what an article should look like. TreacherousWays (talk) 18:38, 13 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to TreachearousWays

First, I'm new to Wikipedia, so forgive me.

I added the short entry for University of Florida Herbarium, as a quick start because the pages on List of Herbaria and List of North American Herbaria try to search Wikipedia for that. I thought at least then people searching Wikipedia could find their way to our Web site which has more content (collection database, images, info. on research).

We certainly don't have the staff to develop a full fledged page at this time, so I suggest we delete it. I am doing many different jobs here-- collection manager, Web site, database administrator and programmer, digitization, librarian... I will figure out how to change the search links in the pages that reference UF Herbarium.

There's nothing - absolutely nothing - to forgive. *Most* first articles are deleted, so don't give up. Developing a "full-fledged" page isn't something that takes staff. It takes someone who is familiar with wikipedia guidelines, especially those relating to notability and sourcing. Maybe I'm naive about it, but as far as I know, most articles are edited by volunteers and amateurs (from the Latin "to love"): people who do what they do because they're interested and want to share their knowledge. I would be willing to bet that someone on your staff or a student has successfully created a wikipedia article or stub article; something that, however imperfect, merits improvement over deletion. My suggestion to you is to identify that person, and have them write or help write an article, using the sandbox (rough draft) page I have created for you here. When you (or someone else) has written something that might be ready for publication, drop by this space and ask for another pair of eyes to take a peek at it. Once the article is in the main space, you can figure out how best to link it through the various projects. I've only been doing this for a few years and don't consider myself to be an expert, but I am willing to offer any help I can. Other more qualified editors are avaiable as well for more complicated questions. I hope this helps, and I *really* hope that you aren't discouraged from creating a worthwhile article. TreacherousWays (talk) 14:39, 19 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]