User talk:Wikiarticlewriter
Small Town Girl
[edit]This is regarding your edits to Small Town Girl. The Digital Songs and Radio Songs charts are components of the Billboard Hot 100 — that is, their data are used to compile the Hot 100 positions. Also, the Radio Songs chart is still officially Hot 100 Airplay, even though the website says Radio Songs. Those charts should be used only if the song didn't enter the Hot 100 proper. For instance, Mark Wills' version of "What Hurts the Most" entered the Digital Songs chart but no other chart, and before 1998, it was common for songs to enter Hot 100 Airplay but not the Hot 100 proper (for example, Bob Carlisle's "Butterfly Kisses"). Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 13:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with TenPoundHammer above, no offense. Those other charts don't seem to be noteworthy, in comparison to the big chart. Dayewalker (talk) 05:51, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- As I explained to TenPoundHammer, the Billboard charts I added are noteworthy, valid, verifiable information. Since they are noteworthy enough for Billboard, they are noteworthy enough for Wikipedia. Also, other album pages have the same charts and I don't see these users removing them from other pages they edit. Why this page? Seems like some bias. Wikiarticlewriter (talk) 06:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- I appreciate the comment, although certainly not the allegations of bias. What are some of the other articles that include these charts? Dayewalker (talk) 06:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- I wasn't referring to you and see no reason to suspect you of bias, however you were quick to agree with TenPoundHammer and revert. Did he call you over here? Here are some of the other articles that include these charts
- I appreciate the comment, although certainly not the allegations of bias. What are some of the other articles that include these charts? Dayewalker (talk) 06:38, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- As I explained to TenPoundHammer, the Billboard charts I added are noteworthy, valid, verifiable information. Since they are noteworthy enough for Billboard, they are noteworthy enough for Wikipedia. Also, other album pages have the same charts and I don't see these users removing them from other pages they edit. Why this page? Seems like some bias. Wikiarticlewriter (talk) 06:33, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- The quick removal of valid information seemed suspicious to me. It's very strange that CloversMallRat and TenPoundHammer have not removed the same charts from the Lambert, Underwood, and other album articles and quickly removed them from Small Town Girl, claiming they are invalid. If CloversMallRat and TenPoundHammer are not biased, maybe they would like to explain why they quickly removed half the charts I added from the Small Town Girl page, the same charts have been on some Miranda Lambert and Carrie Underwood album pages for a much longer time, they edit those artists' pages (frequently in some cases) but didn't bother to remove the same charts from them? Many other articles they created or edit have at least one of the charts I added and they deleted from Small Town Girl. Now I hope they don't start deleting charts from (vandalizing) the other pages.
- Also, I linked to the Wikipedia articles about every chart I added. Since CloversMallRat and TenPoundHammer claimed those charts are no good, "not credible for Wikipedia" etc., why didn't they try to have those articles deleted as well?
- I would never even think about removing any valid data from any article and I'm surprised and disappointed by this. Bias and vandalism will not be tolerated!
- Wikiarticlewriter (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- We have policies on which charts to use. We had to draw the line somewhere so that discographies don't have twenty zillion charts listed. Ten Pound Hammer, his otters and a clue-bat • (Many otters • One bat • One hammer) 17:00, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
- Who is we? You don't run Wikipedia. Can you post a link to these policies because I haven't seen them? No one has to follow your personal policies. So you break your own policies? I see how your line is drawn and it zig zags all over the place. No one added twenty zillion charts to Small Town Girl. I counted 7. I understand not wanting to include a bunch of unsourced international charts but clearly that's not what I'm doing. However I have seen articles with many international sales charts:
- Is that a zillion charts? Does it violate your policies?
- "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia. Vandalism cannot and will not be tolerated."
- Wikiarticlewriter (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Getting back to your other points in a moment, but please don't confuse good faith edits with vandalism. Neither your edits to add the material, nor other editors disagreement with you and removal, are vandalism. Please don't turn this into a full-on argument about vandalism. Dayewalker (talk) 04:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
- Wikiarticlewriter (talk) 04:09, 24 February 2010 (UTC)