Wikipedia:Adminship survey/U

(06/11/04) This poll has too many questions

Points to consider:

No consensus can be determined from answers to this many different questions

Agree

No doubt. —Doug Bell ^talk 23:49, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Polling is evil. That doesn't mean that it won't be a fruitful basis for further discussion, just that it won't make any clear decisions (binding or not) on its own. Eluchil404 05:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why does everybody say that "voting is evil" all the time? If anything, trying to use buzzwords to subvert the discussion process is evil. Both qualitative and quantitative input should be taken into account when making a decision on something here, and quantitative input means those little "#"s you put behind your comments. Just H 18:30, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
For the record I don't disagree with the substance of Just H's coments, though I deeply resent the implication that I am trying to subvert the discussion process. I think it would be better served by more focussed discussion rather than trying to do everything at once. My point was that as an initial step in the decision making process polls like this can over define the debate (a couple of concrete proposals are included above, but others might be worthy of discussion as well). Maybe I should have included a smiley. I appreciate this poll and support what it is trying to do, but I think that it is worth pointing out that it won't solve anything by itself. Eluchil404 22:10, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
My apologies, Eluchil. That definately wasn't my intention. It just bothers me when discussion is sidetracked by distractionary dogma such as "voting is evil" or "polling is evil" instead of just explaining why it's "evil", which was apparently the point of that essay. Just H^{editor review} 22:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the apology. No harm done. As I implied above, I was trying to be funny, and that often fails in text communication. Polls in general (and this poll in particular) have both strengths and weaknesses and a discussion of those is certainly potentially fruitful. Eluchil404 10:37, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Polling is evil, and the questions are special pleading. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If polling is evil, why are you here? Just H^{editor review} 22:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This poll has exactly one question too many. --Ideogram 22:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely. .V. _[_Talk|Email] 14:46, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm with this one. Stifle (talk) 21:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Definitely. I had to skip a few to get here. --kingboyk 23:52, 14 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree

This is it? --Edokter (Talk) 00:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Why would we try to lump all the questions together? -Amarkov moo! 01:36, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I made it! This was a good idea, and 20 specific questions > 10 general questions. Daniel.Bryant 04:28, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nope. If people didn't want to answer them, they wouldn't. Good job on this survey. The consensus of the community has been clarified greatly by it. Just H 18:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This was very refreshing, and I enjoyed it. I answered every single question. I can see the will of the community at a glance! Kind of. Grand master ka 09:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
You can't get enough information by just asking "Admin process: Good or bad?". Specific issues can only be addressed by asking specific questions. Koweja 16:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, it's nice to have things like these every once in a while, to provide some baseline data for future discussions. Back when WP:AAP was created, there were some decisions made by interpreting that data. Titoxd^(?!?) 00:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think this was pretty much the best possible way to run such a survey. I'm quite happy with both the set-up and the responses I've read. I was originally going to say that the only superfluous question was this one, but even that is untrue, as this question could be useful in creating further surveys. -- Kicking222 00:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This poll needs to have as many questions as it needs to get the information it needs. Captain panda In vino veritas 02:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
We're here to give our opinions. If you think polling is evil, don't come here. Simple as that. --²¹⁰physicq (c) 21:04, 4 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Greeves ^{(talk • contribs)} 03:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Piece of cake. —KNcyu38 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Other

It takes too much time, but breaking down the various issues makes it easier to obtain consensus on specific, narrow issues. Αργυριου (talk) 00:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
This poll has the wrong questions, or rather I'm sure we can all think of questions which may have reflected a differing view and other questions which maybe we couldn't see the point in. --pgk 08:14, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Not really, but it took a long time & many of the questions "overlapped", making you write the same stuff again & again until you can't stand it any longer & the constant buzzing sound of the computer becomes unbearable & you feel forced to do something very very bad to your computer!!!!!! Ah, so yeah maybe the survey did have too many questions for me.... ;) Spawn Man 02:35, 19 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If reviewers take the time to count the total number of participants in the survey, and note for specific questions that N people chose to skip this question, having more questions may help reveal the size of the "I don't care" population for a specific point. (Of course, it would be understated by leaving out the "I don't care about any of this" group.) GRBerry 17:24, 26 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]