Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rickey Henderson/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was not promoted 16:57, 28 June 2007.

Rickey Henderson

Self-nomination. This article discusses one of baseball's greatest players. I have maintained this article for a while and it includes excellent content. Timneu22 20:40, 24 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose A nice recap of a great career, but almost nothing about his personal life. He came from a single parent home, but which parent? The quote box gives the answer, why not the article? Was his mom a widow? Any siblings? How did he meet Finley and why did they become friends? Lots of single-sentence paragraphs as well. Most of the Misc section could be incorporated into the text properly, the rest could be excised. This article is a decent start, but there's lots of work to do; I suggest you go for Good Article first and/or a peer review before trying for FA status. Matt Deres 00:34, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose as above. Personal life needs more info. Consolidate some of the sections, such as miscellaneous, malapropisms and unique playing style. The playing style section also seems to have some content about George Bush that isn't really central to the topic. Generally needs copyediting (spelling, spaces between a word and a full stop, etc). Needs some more references for unsourced statements. And a minor quibble: it is difficult to tell who is Rickey Henderson from the main picture, as two figures feature prominently. Recurring dreams 12:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Oppose as above. There are a lot of things that need to be cited and there really isn't a lot of flow in this article. Ever-so-slightly POV as well. I think the article can be close to passing as a Good Article, but more work needs to be done before it reaches FA. BTW, about the picture...that issue could be solved if I knew to add something to the template that allows for image captions. -- Transaspie 18:20, 25 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose far too few citations. Every paragraph should at least have one. TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose There are several issues with this article,

Very poorly sourced and some of the references are not that good (especially the salon.com one and the sports reference one that could be improved by a better source),

Alot of unneeded quotes that destroys the flow of the article, the quotes on the end of the Oakland Athletics section is a peferct example

The unique playing style section is unneeded and rather trivial and should be gone,

The accoplishments section, can be converted to prose, and most of it is already in the article already.

I do agree with above that the personal life section should be expanded, and same with the minor leagues section, there are a couple of books and countless newspaper articles about Henderson outthere because of his longivity

Poor prose thoughout, many one sentence paragraphs, grammar errors, etc, I recommend to work on the article much more before sending it to GA, as it isn't close to past that. Thanks Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 18:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Many one-sentence paragraphs. Where? Timneu22 22:49, 26 June 2007 (UTC) I appreciate some of your edits, Jaranda, but I had to undo several them. Timneu22 10:28, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there are two in the intro; that's not a good start. I only saw a couple more, but then the last whole section is nothing but point form lists. Those lists could be turned into proper prose or removed and the intro needs a pretty major re-write anyway. Matt Deres 10:49, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure about the intro needing a rewrite. It explains who Rickey Henderson (a former player with two records), gives a brief discussion about his career (leader in walks and such; people consider him one of the best leadoff hitters); and it gives a quote from a famous statistician about his impact on the game. What are you looking for in an intro? Timneu22 23:25, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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