Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Slipknot awards

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The list was promoted by User:Scorpion0422 01:11, 24 September 2008 [1].

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List of Slipknot awards

An article I believe meets the FL criteria and up to par with other award lists. REZTER ^TALK ø 22:49, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Not one single reference for the lead? I'd suggest the following (from just the first few sentences) have references... It may be possible to reference it all from one decent WP:RS, but you need something here.
  • "band from Des Moine, Iowa."
  • "Originally formed under the name of The Pale Ones in September 1995.."
  • "The band began recording songs in early 1996, during which time Steele left due to his Christian beliefs."
  • "He was replaced by Craig Jones, who moved to samples..."
    • Well I didn't think I needed references considering all of those claims are referenced in the main Slipknot article, however I can provide sources very easily. On Slipknot discography we don't source the history of the band. REZTER ^TALK ø 17:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
      • That doesn't make it right. Each article in Wikipedia is stand-alone. Please reference the claims. Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 17:52, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
        • OK I have sourced the history of the band. REZTER ^TALK ø 19:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• "...left due to his Christian beliefs." - which "Christian beliefs" say you can't be in a band? Needs explanation.
  • I've expanded it. REZTER ^TALK ø 19:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• Unlink dates.
  • Done. REZTER ^TALK ø 19:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• "received 6 awards" - six.
  • Done. REZTER ^TALK ø 19:07, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

The Rambling Man (talk) 16:45, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• Maybe you could work in the lead first paragraph, the band's name is at least five times in that single paragraph.
  • OK made a few changes. There's now only 3 mentions in the first paragraph. REZTER ^TALK ø 21:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• For the rest of the list, congratulations, very good job. Jaespinoza (talk) 21:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
• Support. It looks very good now. Jaespinoza (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Resolved comments from S_RX

• Comments
  • In 2008 then band released their fourth album All Hope Is Gone, the single "Psychosocial" brought the band their first MTV Video Music Awards nomination for Best Rock Video. - somehow these sentences don't connect, no transitions or connecting verbs like "and/then, etc."

--S_RX 23:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

• • • OK I've changed it around a bit. REZTER ^TALK ø 10:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Support - comments have been resolved to meet FL Criteria.--S_RX 20:33, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Article makes no mention of Slipknot's win (s) / nomination (s ) at Metal Hammer Golden God Awards. Here's one win, and one nomination. LuciferMorgan (talk) 18:00, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your suggestion, while lookign for more noms and wins for those wards (which I found none of) I found some noms for Total Guitar awards too. Added. REZTER ^TALK ø 19:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Comments

• What makes http://www.ents24.com/web/news.html?id=00000631 a reliable source?

Otherwise sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:45, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not really sure how to justify a source as reliable TBH. I found it while searching on http://news.google.co.uk and kind of figured that those are select sites and are kind of considered reliable. I know there's an article for the site (Ents24) and that states that it's one of the leading sites in the entertainment industry in the UK. WP:RS states that "their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy or authoritative in relation to the subject at hand" and beign that the Kerrang! awards is a UK based thing I'd expect one of the biggest websites related to entertainment in the UK to be deemed reliable. REZTER ^TALK ø 13:05, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

SatyrTN comments

• Is it really necessary to have five (Grammy) or six (Kerrang) citations for the two short sentences of each section? If possible, could you find a source that sums those up?

• I'm afraid it is necessary because I don't have soruces that list all of their nominations and wins, only seperate ones for seperate years. REZTER ^TALK ø 10:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

• Overall, I Support this FLC. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 21:09, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

• Definitely a good-looking and interesting list. One question which I feel needs to be asked of all these award lists, what is the scope of the contents? In other words, is this list every single award Slipknot have been nominated for or won? I doubt it, so I'm interested to see how the inclusion criteria is defined. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:16, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• It's pretty much every award that they've won that I'm aware of and have found from my sources. I also searched for all awards listed on this template and listed the only ones I found. REZTER ^TALK ø 12:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

• Comment - The title should be "List of awards won by Slipknot"; "List of Slipknot awards", to me, sounds like it's awards given out by Slipknot. --Golbez (talk) 00:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
  • I'm not disagreeing, but as per List of Korn awards, List of Linkin Park awards, List of Metallica awards, and List of Rage Against the Machine awards that style of naming seems to be the norm. Blackngold29 01:14, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

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