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The list was withdrawn by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 6 January 2019 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of songs recorded by Radiohead[edit]

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Nominator(s): BeatlesLedTV (talk) 05:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

My Talking Heads FLC has three supports so I think I'm good for my next song list: the English rock band Radiohead. Many of Radiohead's pages are featured or good articles and because their music has been so influential since the 1990s, I felt this list deserved better than this. As always, I'm open to any comments or concerns anyone might have. Happy editing! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 05:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

  • Unfortunately I have to oppose this right now as I think the lead is overlong - lots of waffle and too much detail. In fact I meant to add an "overlong lead" tag to the page earlier today but didn't get round to it. I may attempt to trim it soon myself. edit: I should add that your recent work on the article has been excellent and has greatly improved it. Popcornduff (talk) 09:14, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Popcornduff Thanks very much! I do think it seems a little long as well but I wanted to make sure I got everything since many of their albums were completely different from the ones that came before them. Any suggestions on how to trim it? I have some ideas but I'd like your opinion as well. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 16:03, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest less detail about the style and reception of each album. That stuff is relevant but not to the extent that it's currently covered. I don't think the lead for this article should be significantly longer than the Radiohead lead, as a rule. Popcornduff (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Popcornduff I trimmed it down more and it's now shorter than their main article's lead. I mainly trimmed down info about EPs and less info about OK Computer, In Rainbows, and The King of Limbs, as well as removed the info about The King of Limbs live album and The Help Album. Does it look better enough to no longer oppose? :-) BeatlesLedTV (talk) 21:52, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Great job trimming this down. I've done another copyedit, which was much easier because the lead was so much slimmer. I'm not sure it's kosher for a someone to support or oppose FAC noms when they've contributed a fair amount to the article themselves, so for now let's just say I'll withdraw my opposition.
I have a couple more suggestions and questions.
  • You differentiate some songs using colours *and* keys. Is it necessary to use both?
  • That's how other featured lists do it. I've also have nominated six songs lists for FL and have used this format for every one. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK. I have to say it seems pointless (and even distracting) to me but I won't challenge it. Popcornduff (talk) 06:10, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Do single releases include promo releases? If so should this be clarified? (I'm unsure on this myself.) But, for example, Lotus Flower is listed as a single presumably because it was a promo single - but Lift isn't, despite receiving a music video - is this correct? Again, I'm unsure exactly about what counts as a single or promo single, so maybe the article is already correct... just making sure.
  • Yes. Some articles differentiate promo singles from regular singles but because Radiohead has not released that many promo singles I just combined them. "Lotus Flower" had a music video and was released as a promo single but no official commercial singles were released for The King of Limbs. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I understand. I think combining promo singles and commercial singles is definitely a good call. But to clarify: Lift isn't considered a promo single, right? Even though it had a music video. Popcornduff (talk) 06:10, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • As a result of my last copyedit one source has ended up looking a bit weird - "featured a sound[4]" - I'm guessing we can just get rid of this citation as it's not clear what exactly it's citing any more...
  • There are still a couple of bits in the lead that are a bit vague for my liking. For example, there's a fairly concrete description of Kid A - influences from these genres, etc. But for The Bends we get abstractions like "displayed the band's musical growth". Same for OKC. If possible I think it'd be good to dig through the wiki pages for those bands and get some more concrete descriptions of what distinguishes those albums.Popcornduff (talk) 08:46, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • It's hard for Kid A and In Rainbows because their wiki pages don't really describe what the songs are like, mainly their genres. I've listened to Kid A but not In Rainbows so I'm not sure myself. I'll keep looking. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Popcornduff Comments above. Thanks very much for your help! BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
One more thought. I question some of the production credits here. For example, Godrich isn't credited as a producer on Harry Patch - is there a production credit somewhere for that? The source provided doesn't clarify. And isn't OKC credited to Radiohead and Godrich? Popcornduff (talk) 06:46, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Actually according to liner notes for both, "Harry Patch" was produced by the group solely and OK Computer was solely produced by Godrich (at least that's how it's credited). BeatlesLedTV (talk) 15:22, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Giants2008, PresN, The Rambling Man Can one of you close this for now? I'll renominate it at a later date but am currently working on another list that I want to nominate soon. Thanks. BeatlesLedTV (talk) 18:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

  • Closing note: This candidate has been withdrawn, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see WP:FLC/ar, and leave the {{featured list candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the bot goes through.
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