Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Discontinued Hugo Awards/archive1

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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:22, 22 May 2011 [1].

Discontinued Hugo Awards

Featured list candidates/Discontinued Hugo Awards/archive1

Nominator(s): Pres N 02:56, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Last one! The first FLC was 11 months ago, and here we are with the 14th! This one breaks the mold of all the other Hugo Award lists- instead of one long table, it's several! As said in the article, each individual convention is allowed to make up its own Hugo Awards, which are just as official as the others despite not being binding on the next convention; additionally, a couple of times Hugo Awards have been officially created by the governing body only to be dropped a few years later. This list contains all of those, resulting in the catch-all title of ~~"Other Hugo Awards"~~ "Discontinued Hugo Awards". I hope you guys find this one as fine as the other 13 lists. Thanks for reviewing this and the other lists! --Pres N 02:56, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

~~Oppose~~ until a decent name is found. This name is simply misleading. It could be "Hugo awards (minor awards)" or "Hugo Awards (deprecated categories)" or something more useful. Plus, the table section should be split into deprecated awards and those still being awarded. Nergaal (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the name itself kind of points out the fact that this might simply be a CFORK. Nergaal (talk) 16:53, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A CFORK that is twice the length of the parent article (Hugo Awards), even after you pull the extra white space? I'm cool with a better name if one can be found; I don't think the two that you have work- Minor awards doesn't work because what makes these minor other than that they mainly aren't given any more? They're just as legitimate. And deprecated doesn't work, because Graphic Story is still ongoing- given the buzz around it the two years it's been up I fully expect it to get reupped in 2012. --Pres N 17:12, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How about "List of discontinued Hugo Awards"? GamerPro64 (talk) 20:39, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Would work except that Graphic Story isn't discontinued, it's just only 2 years old. That's why I went with Other- the distinguishing feature was that they were all too short to stand on their own. --Pres N 21:18, 28 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to include absolutely all of the "other" prizes in such a list. Just change this to "discontinued prizes" and put the one ongoing into the main article as auto-capped. Nergaal (talk) 16:16, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, renamed to Discontinued Hugo Awards and spun out the graphic award into its own list. This is rather ironic- the list was originally just that graphic award, and I expanded it to include the other small awards. Now it's back to being its own list. --Pres N 20:20, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

Not sure about the usefulness of having sortable tables with one entry. I know consistency is good, but this still seems a little odd to me.

Point; made all single-entry tables unsortable, as well as one where the sorting wouldn't do anything. --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"When the Hugo awards were begun in 1953, what awards were given were entirely decided by the committee that organized the Worldcon that they were presented at." not wishing to be rude but I think this is one of the most awkward sentences I've ever read in my life....

Do I win an award? Fixed. --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"by the overall World Science..." what's the purpose of "overall" here?

None, removed. --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"Despite this, however," no need for however here.

Actually, despite this, however, it has been removed. --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"to add additional categories" reads poorly with the repeat of "add..."

(insert repetition joke) fixed. --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"The next non-standard Hugo award .." since you changed the title of the list, I guess you need to re-phrase this!

Guess so! --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 19:59, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Replied inline. --Pres N 21:00, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support I see no further problems. And yes, you win an award for "worst sentence ever constructed on Wikipedia". It's in the post... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:20, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support Only thing I would change is to make the level three headers table titles, so there wouldn't be so many sections, but it's not a major issue. Courcelles 23:04, 19 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support I second Coutcelles' comment, there's too many short sections, but it's not that big of a concern.--Cheetah (talk) 05:37, 21 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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