Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/Ashlee Simpson discography/archive1

The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was kept by Dabomb87 23:00, 18 February 2011 [1].

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Ashlee Simpson discography

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I am nominating this for featured list removal because, it contains a lot of unsourced sections. For example, the chart positions. Lead is okay, but not good. Many other issues too. Information of leak in the lead?? Novice7 | Talk 07:31, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• Delist - All Chart Positions seem to be unsourced. Afro (Talk) 14:07, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• Keep - Everything now seems to be properly sourced. Afro (Talk) 12:39, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

• 'Speedy Delist'Weak delist Keep-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 17:44, 2 January 2011 (UTC) Citations in appearances and music videos sections should be in the {{cite web| template, no lazy-dog refs. Then I will vote for "Keep".-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 12:14, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

• This is not an WP:AFD vote to keep/delete the article. It's to decide whether to keep it listed at WP:Featured lists or not, based on whether it meets the WP:Featured list criteria. Matthewedwards :  Chat  18:00, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

• Comment - I saw that issues with chart positions was raised 5 months ago, has anyone tried to revert the page to when it was promoted, and then adding in subsequent releases? Matthewedwards :  Chat  18:00, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I noticed it just now. The nominator has been inactive for a few months now and there is no one else to fix the issues. I would have, but now that I've nominated it for removal, I guess I cannot. Novice7 | Talk 06:44, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Not at all. A nominator is more than welcome to fix the issues found. There's no obligation to do so, but if you think you can help, and keep the list featured, then go for it. The Rambling Man (talk) 23:09, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you Rambling Man. I've started fixing the article. Novice7 | Talk 08:47, 5 January 2011 (UTC)

I also started working on the article when I saw the nomination, but only in my sandbox. I've merged the tables from the originally promoted version and the current version, found references for everything the albums, singles and certifications, and double-checked what was in use (the Canadian CRIA website is down at the moment for a redesign and album certs are unavailable so I've hidden those). I've also updated the tables so they are formatted in the new-and-improved way. I haven't really touched the Lede, because I don't know enough about the subject. Matthewedwards :  Chat  05:26, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

OK, so Novice7 gave me the three references I was missing. Can someone please merge User:Matthewedwards/Sandbox/Ashlee with Ashlee Simpson discography. I can never get it right and always end up deleting histories :/ Thanks, Matthewedwards :  Chat  18:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Done, though things done within these edits will need to be readded- your sandbox had a few problems, so reverting to the mainspace versiod worked better for now. Courcelles 00:44, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Courcelles. I see you had the same issue I tend to when restoring histories! Glad I'm not the only one! :P I think I covered everything in those edits.

The "Music vids" and "Other appearances" tables should be converted to the new style if anyone wants to spend five minutes on it, but I don't think it's a killer issue at the moment.

I left out the "Other charting songs" section which contained two songs -- one that charted only in the Pop 100 at 93 (reading the article, it appears to be a minor chart that didn't last long), and one song that somehow claims to have reached Number 101 in the Hot 100 chart. Go figure.

Finally, the Lede still needs some work. I agree with the nominator that "it's okay but not good". It is a bit weak in places but having said that, it's not much different from other Featured discog ledes with regards to style and substance. I'd take a stab at it but I know very little about Ashlee's career and after listening to a couple of songs, have come to the decision that I'm not really interested in finding out more! :p The refs could be removed since it's all in the tables, too. Matthewedwards :  Chat  05:17, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

(→) Lol Matthew. Yes, the lead needs expansion. I'll try to expand it bit by bit. Novice7 | Talk 06:18, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

• Delist 3 albums and 8 singles? These can be easily merged in the main article. WP:CFORK! Nergaal (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

• I didn't originally nominate this article at FLC, but I seem to have adopted it during this review process! Even with the work I've done to it, I have no objections to this being merged. Matthewedwards :  Chat  02:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

• Can all participants address Nergaal's concern that this list is a content fork? Dabomb87 (talk) 23:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

• I disagree, the main page is large enough already, and it makes for a perfectly reasonable standalone list in my opinion. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:51, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
• As I already said, I don't mind if it is merged. It's not like the work spent on it will be lost, but yeah, looking at Ashlee Simpson, that page will be pretty bloated if we do put it in there. Matthewedwards :  Chat  16:56, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

• I agree with Rambling Man and Matthewedwards. The main article is big (needs a neat cleanup), and adding this may result in even bigger and, yeah, bloated. – Novice7 (talk) 17:20, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Adabow (talk · contribs) 08:36, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

*Keep The lead seems to be "blah blah" reached # on x chart, but most discographies seem to do that. I'll just comment on a couple of things: Empty cells should contain an em dash I agree that the Lede is a bit weak, but it does follow the style of most other discogs. I don't know enough about her or her career to do anything about it. I've added the em dashes to the empty table cells Websites (eg Allmusic, MTV) should not be italicised Formatted the MTV/Allmusic thing. Someone converted all the references to those infuriating cite templates which messed a few things up. Someone should check chart positions for verification. Adabow (talk · contribs) 21:38, 24 January 2011 (UTC) I cleared the tables and reentered the chart positions earlier in the review process, but if anyone else wants to double-check me, they're more than welcome. Thanks for reviewing this! Matthewedwards :  Chat  02:30, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:03, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Comments Lead is inconsistent with infobox (videos) Fixed You have "... platinum ..." in the lead but " x Platinum" in the table, can we be internally consistent on capitalisation? Same for gold. I don't know if they're proper names or not, which is why they're lowercase in the prose. They're capitalised in the tables because they're the first word. Someone more knowledgable will have to make the change I capitalized the "G" and "P". RIAA publishes it in uppercase, so I guess we should use uppercase too. Novice7

Keep reasonably happy now. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

• Comments – Couple quick grammar nit-picks: a quotation mark is missing in after L.O.V.E., and the comma after "The follow up singles were not successful in the US" should probably be a period. Also, the all caps in the title of reference 14 should be removed. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:28, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

• Fixed. Thank you. – Novice7 (talk) 03:33, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

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