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Human Embryogenesis[edit]

Voting period is over. Please don't add any new votes. Voting period ends on 24 Jul 2010 at 13:01:24 (UTC)

Original - the initial stages of human embryogenesis
Reason
Highly encyclopedic and illustrative, clearly showing the important stages in the first three weeks of formation of the human embryo. High quality SVG on a par with many current FPs.
Articles in which this image appears
Human embryogenesis, Prenatal development + others
FP category for this image
Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Sciences/Biology
Creator
Jrockley, Zephyris
  • Support as nominator --Anxietycello (talk) 13:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Fixed your title as it read "a title for this nomination" Gazhiley (talk) 13:23, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose The early stages are somewhat messy - these are very precise divisions, and I've never seen them be shown like this. Further, it's frankly somewhat hard to follow - even though I studied reproductive biology last year. There's missing steps all over the place. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • What steps are missing? If you mean the two-cell and four-cell steps, I don't really feel that needs illustrating... Anxietycello (talk) 14:38, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Okay. Let's start at Compaction. The next image moves the cells around, whereas if I remember my stages at all, I'm pretty sure it's an interior/exterior cleave, and so the positions should be the same between both views, just with a new division. The formation of the Blastocoel could use another illustration to clarify the elongation of the outer cells; The formation of the epiblast is somewhat abrupt; The move from Day 9 to Day 12 much more so. The spreading of mesoderm between days 12 and 18 needs an intermediary image to be clear; It would be nice to at least point out the trophectoderm formation, etc. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:28, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Oh, also, if you're going to have the label fertilization, you should actually show the sperm and egg combining. As it is, it's rather a virgin birth. More seriously, it varies between species, and I can't recall for certain if this is true of humans, but I think that the point where the sperm implants is important in axis formation. Adam Cuerden (talk) 20:32, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Day 7 it implants but the next image, Day 9, it doesn't look implanted but is floating above the red uterine cells? I don't neccesarly agree with Adam though about the messy early stages, looks good to me, and I can follow it quite well I think, but then again I'm a bio major so maybe it's easier for me? — raeky (talk | edits) 14:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment Remember I am available to fix any issues... How should the Day 9 interaction with the epithelium be illustrated? - Zephyris Talk 19:16, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • Just move the red uterine cells in Day 9 to the top and tie them the cells together like they are on day 7. As for missing steps that Adam is talking about, I'd have to check on that. — raeky (talk | edits) 19:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. You should use Wikimedia-friendly fonts. Verdana doesn't render correctly on Wikimedia's servers. Matthewedwards :  Chat  00:05, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment I have updated the font to Dejavu Sans to fix this issue. - Zephyris Talk 19:41, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • That's really great, thanks. I'm not prepared to support at this time, but only because I don't know enough about the subject to know if it's correct yet. Regards, Matthewedwards :  Chat  22:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: Day 9, "cell" should be capitalised? J Milburn (talk) 18:18, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not promoted --Jujutacular T · C 20:13, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]