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Walter Johnson and Calvin Coolidge[edit]

Original - US President Calvin Coolidge (left) and Washington Senators pitcher Walter Johnson (right) shake hands.
Alt1 - More typical crop, per gren
Reason
High quality and resolution image of significant EV and historical value, a US president and one of the greatest pitchers of all time shaking hands. Crop style was Durova's idea, I like it as it catches the full image and the feeling of the crowd whilst losing the intrusive barrier of the original.
Articles this image appears in
Calvin Coolidge, Walter Johnson, 1924 in baseball, Minnesota Twins, Sports diplomacy#Sports and politics in the United States
Creator
National Photo Company Collection, edited by Staxringold, Durova, and Shoemaker's Holiday.
  • Support as nominator --Staxringold talkcontribs 00:40, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Comment I'm unsure about the crop... I see its purpose although I am slightly uneasy about losing some of the the bottom right. But, if we agree cropping is a good idea why did you choose to keep so much on the right and left? I don't have an answer to this, of course, but it's what came to mind when comparing to the original. I'm not sure it's the best crop for all of the articles, especially the two biographies. gren グレン 06:33, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
  • The idea is to keep the feeling of a crowd, since that's where they are, while removing the obstructions. Staxringold talkcontribs 14:01, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
  • What about something like Alt1? It still has a good amount of crowd but the aspect ratio isn't as severe. Kaldari (talk) 22:11, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Support Great EV. — Jake Wartenberg 01:47, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Support revised version. Staxringold and I discussed several possible crops and agreed this was the best solution. Minimizes the intrusive barrier on the original while retaining the handshake and crowd presence. Durova306 02:03, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
    • Oppose alt one. Cuts off figures at both left and right. Loses sense of crowd, including appauding figure at far right and the dynamic diagonal slope from the upper background. A more typical crop isn't necessarily a better one. Durova306 00:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Support original, Oppose Alt as auxilliary dirtzapper. The crop is more typical, but seems to lose a lot of the dynamism of the original.

Plus the 1920s fashions visible in the crowd are an additional source of appeal. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 201 FCs served 03:34, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

  • Comment This is one of those super cool pictures that I love seeing but hate voting for on. I just don't see the EV for it. Maybe someone can explain it to me before I vote. Makeemlighter (talk) 07:30, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
  • There's the biographical value showing what they look like, it shows the interrelationship of politics and sports in the US, it came after one of the lone bright spots in the history of the Washington Senators, and perhaps most important directly displays the friendship briefly mentioned in the Walter Johnson article ("A life-long Republican and friend of President Calvin Coolidge...") which will need to be far expanded for the article to properly reach FA status (but this image goes to that friendship). Staxringold talkcontribs 07:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
  • Oh, I didn't see that about them being friends. That's interesting. Anyway, I think this picture would be best used for an article discussing the "American League diploma" mentioned in the image description. Unfortunately, I can't find any more information about that. Was it common for a president to present that to the team? Do we have any more info on this specific meeting between Johnson and Coolidge? Makeemlighter (talk) 11:11, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
  • I have no information on that thing, though given that this photo is from 1925 and the Senators won the World Series (and thus the AL pennant) in 1924 and WJ won the League Award, it's probably something to do with one of those things. Staxringold talkcontribs 15:35, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Promoted File:Walter Johnson and Calvin Coolidge shake hands FINAL.jpg --jjron (talk) 08:34, 1 September 2009 (UTC)