Wikipedia:Featured and good topic candidates/Jimi Hendrix/archive1
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- Contributor(s): GabeMc
All three articles are featured. --GabeMc (talk|contribs) 21:24, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment I do not believe this topic is complete as is. Surely a topic on Jimi Hendrix would have to at least include Jimi Hendrix discography and Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography, as well as The Jimi Hendrix Experience.--十八 21:52, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware that the criteria for a featured topic required completeness. You could argue that this topic would not be complete without each of his albums as well. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 21:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- No, the albums would be part of a subtopic on his discography covered by the two discography listed by Juhachi. Essentially, all the notable articles in the template listed at the bottom of the main article has to fall either within the main topic, or one of the subtopics led by one containing element of the topic. Also, Canadian drug charges and trial of Jimi Hendrix might be necessary. Nergaal (talk) 22:03, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- WP:FT? criteria 1(d) states: "There are no obvious gaps (missing or low quality articles) in the topic. A topic must not cherry pick only the best articles to become featured together." And there is at least one precedence of only including a discography: Wikipedia:Featured topics/Overview of Chrisye. Similarly, this topic would end up as an overview of Jimi Hendrix.--十八 22:08, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- There are several hundred articles in that template; are you saying that there cannot be a featured topic on Jimi Hendrix that editors add to as more articles are brought up to par, but that a featured topic would require an initial batch of several hundred articles? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Nergaal was basically referring to a rule-of-thumb where any article in a FT/GT would also be included in a navbox on each of the articles in the topic (criteria 1(c)). That does not mean every article in {{Jimi Hendrix}} must be in the topic, just that the articles that you'd expect in a topic on Jimi Hendrix should be included, like his discographies. Would you have a topic on Shakespeare without including Shakespeare bibliography? I think not.--十八 22:19, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Okay, I see what you mean, but technically speaking those articles pertain to not just him, but his bandmates as well. Every Wikipedia article that is dedicated to Hendrix and not also his bands are FA. That was my logic, since the three articles that pertain only to him are FA. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:23, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Nergaal was basically referring to a rule-of-thumb where any article in a FT/GT would also be included in a navbox on each of the articles in the topic (criteria 1(c)). That does not mean every article in {{Jimi Hendrix}} must be in the topic, just that the articles that you'd expect in a topic on Jimi Hendrix should be included, like his discographies. Would you have a topic on Shakespeare without including Shakespeare bibliography? I think not.--十八 22:19, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- There are several hundred articles in that template; are you saying that there cannot be a featured topic on Jimi Hendrix that editors add to as more articles are brought up to par, but that a featured topic would require an initial batch of several hundred articles? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- OK, all three articles on Jimi Hendrix's life are there... but you can't separate his life from his work, since that's what made him notable. The JHE and discography articles are thus necessary to talk about Hendrix. igordebraga ≠ 02:07, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- I wasn't aware that the criteria for a featured topic required completeness. You could argue that this topic would not be complete without each of his albums as well. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 21:54, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
- Delegate Comment - Just to help with the conversation, I'm gonna call Faryl Smith into place in terms of topics involving a single musician. GamerPro64 02:17, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
- Comment Again, including only Are You Experienced is still cherry-picking - while including that, Axis: Bold as Love and Electric Ladyland has some basis as those are the studio albums he released alive, the overview provided by the discography (as well as the posthumous one) would be a better pick. Both are in good shape, with a little work they could get to Featured List status. igordebraga ≠ 13:54, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not trying to cherry-pick, but I'm new to this page so I'm unaware of the expectations. I only added AYE because its now an FA, whereas the other studio albums are not. Can you tell me in a more concrete way which additional articles would be required for a Jimi Hendrix FT? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 16:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Please read over WP:WIAFT, specifically the criterion I already quoted above: criteria 1(d) states: "There are no obvious gaps (missing or low quality articles) in the topic. A topic must not cherry pick only the best articles to become featured together." You cannot simply add in one of the studio albums and expect not to add in the others. If you want this topic to pass, it needs to have Jimi Hendrix, Death of Jimi Hendrix, Canadian drug charges and trial of Jimi Hendrix, Jimi Hendrix discography, Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography and The Jimi Hendrix Experience. To put it another way, if you include one individual album, expect to include all of them. Instead, it would be much simpler to included the discography articles, and the band that has his name (and whose releases are included in the discographies).--十八 20:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Just go ahead and close this nom. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 20:17, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
- Please read over WP:WIAFT, specifically the criterion I already quoted above: criteria 1(d) states: "There are no obvious gaps (missing or low quality articles) in the topic. A topic must not cherry pick only the best articles to become featured together." You cannot simply add in one of the studio albums and expect not to add in the others. If you want this topic to pass, it needs to have Jimi Hendrix, Death of Jimi Hendrix, Canadian drug charges and trial of Jimi Hendrix, Jimi Hendrix discography, Jimi Hendrix posthumous discography and The Jimi Hendrix Experience. To put it another way, if you include one individual album, expect to include all of them. Instead, it would be much simpler to included the discography articles, and the band that has his name (and whose releases are included in the discographies).--十八 20:53, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Well, I'm not trying to cherry-pick, but I'm new to this page so I'm unaware of the expectations. I only added AYE because its now an FA, whereas the other studio albums are not. Can you tell me in a more concrete way which additional articles would be required for a Jimi Hendrix FT? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 16:07, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
- Closing with no consensus to promote --十八 20:59, 24 March 2014 (UTC)