Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith/1
No Man Knows My History: The Life of Joseph Smith[edit]
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- Result: Kept Consensus is keep and take to dispute resolution. Szzuk (talk) 17:06, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
I am listing this page for reassessment based on Good article criteria #4 and #5 (mainly #5)
- 5. Is it stable?
Ongoing edit wars since prior to October 2010:
- 4. Fair representation without bias:
- This is directly in regards to #5. The "Fair representation without bias" cannot be determined. If one side of the edit war is correct then the article is bias in favor of the "apologetic Mormon" viewpoint. If the other is correct the article is bias in favor of Fawn McKay Brodie hypothesis, at the exclusion of any DNA research. Therefor the Good article criteria #4 can't be agreed upon.
--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs)
- I think it would make more sense for you to take this article through the normal WP:Dispute resolution processes. An edit war between partisans is not going to be solved here. WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:55, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
- This is not about the disputed content of the edit war nor have I edited the page since 29 July 2011. This is only about the above items and the fact that there has been an edit war ongoing since October. A GA cannot be involved in an edit war and this one has been since October 2010. This article has undergone almost 150 changes since the GA Review on June 23, 2009 most of which are not "Vandalism" changes. Can you honestly say that it has been stable'? Additionally, how can it be a Fair representation without bias, when no one can agree if the article is Bias or not? If these do not apply to the Article, then it is not GA anymore. --ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 15:59, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
- In the interest of fairness, I have now edited that page "After" my last post here (ie 19:49, 15 August 2011) where I said that I hadn't posted since July 29th.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 19:49, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
- This is not about the disputed content of the edit war nor have I edited the page since 29 July 2011. This is only about the above items and the fact that there has been an edit war ongoing since October. A GA cannot be involved in an edit war and this one has been since October 2010. This article has undergone almost 150 changes since the GA Review on June 23, 2009 most of which are not "Vandalism" changes. Can you honestly say that it has been stable'? Additionally, how can it be a Fair representation without bias, when no one can agree if the article is Bias or not? If these do not apply to the Article, then it is not GA anymore. --ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 15:59, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
- The problem is not you personally engaging in an edit war; the problem is somebody is engaging in an edit war. The edit war needs to be resolved. GAR is not a useful place to do that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- Again, that doesn't explain how a GA which, per #5 cannot be part of an edit war, is part of an edit war, ongoing since October 2010. You realize this is almost a year. At what point dose a GA deserve delisting when it no longer meets the GA criteria. I could buy your argument if this was a one time issue lasting a few days, but not a year.--ARTEST4ECHO (talk/contribs) 12:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- The problem is not you personally engaging in an edit war; the problem is somebody is engaging in an edit war. The edit war needs to be resolved. GAR is not a useful place to do that. WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2011 (UTC)