Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/River Don Navigation/1

River Don Navigation

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Result: No consensus to delist. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The article contains uncited statements, including entire sections. The article also has MOS:OVERSECTION and some of these short, one-paragraph sections could be merged together. Z1720 (talk) 03:12, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have made a start on reducing the number of sections, covering the Tinsley area and the Rotherham area. I'll do some more later today, and then look at the referencing. Bob1960evens (talk) 08:26, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The work to reduce the number of sections is now completed. I have added a few more refs, but will see what else I can find. Bob1960evens (talk) 17:55, 1 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a number of refs to cover the bits that did not have refs previously. Bob1960evens (talk) 12:04, 2 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Z1720 are you satisfied with the work done on the article? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:42, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bob1960evens and AirshipJungleman29: I still think the "Structures" section suffers from oversection, making it look more like a list. I think this section should be spun out or the non-notable structures removed from this section. The "Points of interest" is also not NPOV and is a little too promotional for my liking: Wikipedia should not be stating what is a "point of interest". Z1720 (talk) 17:15, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think the previous statement shows any understanding of what a points of interest table is. For a long structure (in this case 28 miles long), the coordinate feature does not help to give the reader any understanding of where this sits in the landscape. A points of interest table enables readers to see where significant features of that long structure are located. It is called Points of Interest because it uses the POI template to make that happen. Searching through all of the GA articles on UK canals and navigable rivers, and one FA, they all have a Points of Interest table, and nobody has previously interpreted them as promotional. In a small minority of cases, the section is labelled Route rather than Points of interest, and in the case of the FA (River Parrett), it is labelled Route and points of interest. Bob1960evens (talk) 22:39, 14 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Bob1960evens: Who or what has determined these listed features as a "Point of interest"? Z1720 (talk) 20:53, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As with all the other GA and FA articles, most UK canal articles and many UK river articles, they are significant geographical features or structures along the length of the navigation, which allow the "Map all coordinates with Open Street Map" feature to show where the watercourse sits in the landscape. Bob1960evens (talk) 23:17, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.