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Who is Craven Cox?[edit]

What is the real name of adult star "Craven Cox"

Thank you,


Unless the porn star (or someone affiliated with him) comes out and says the name, it is very difficult to find a real name of a porn star. Is there any reason you want to know the real name? Just email the site and ask, and if they don't tell you, then they want to keep it secret for privacy concerns.--Kirbytime 06:57, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Nazi Resistance Movie (plot spoiler)[edit]


this is driving me a little nuts, but many decades ago I saw an excellent foreign film about Nazi invasion, which I cannot remember the name of. I think it was set in Poland. I would like to find this film again, I think the title was one word. (SPOILER) Nazi invasion was resisted by activists in a music college, by music students, I believe one was a cello player. The ending was very tragic because the Nazi's found all of them one by one, and the last two leaders were trapped in the basement of the school and the Nazi's flooded the basement. As the water rises up around their necks you see the two heroes lovingly grasp each other's face, say goodbye and shoot each other in the head, Last scene, you see their bodies floating on the surface of the water, as it rises to the ceiling. One of the greatest movies I've ever seen. Can anyone identify this film for me, name and director? I thought the name started with a P but I can't be sure. Missmink 05:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Is it an American film? --Kirbytime 06:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

No, I think it was a subtitled Polish film. I read some descriptions of some Wajda films and it didn't sound like any of those, although they sound very gripping as well. It was many years ago but if I recall correctly I believe it was in black and white. (Or perhaps I saw it on a black and white telly, sorry, I don't remember)

It does not quite fit all of the details you have given, but part of your outline reminds me of the plot of Atentat, a Czech film that deals with the events surrounding the assassination in Prague in 1942 of Reinhard Heydrich, Reichsprotektor of Bohemia and Moravia. Clio the Muse 00:28, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

To tell the truth, I am now not at all sure it was a Polish film, it could have been one of those Slavic countries. The image I do remember vividly is their bodies swirling in the rising water as the Nazi's flooded the basement in the last scene. That, and the fact that the resistance fighters in this film were students at a music school. But thank you for the movie tip, I'll have to check out that movie Atentat, sounds interesting.  :^)

Actually, it sounds very much like Wajda's Samson. Some versions don't include the last scene (which is rife with subtle pro-Communist propaganda), where Jakob meets his end in the underground hideout with the communist leader Pankrat. --Charlene 03:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Speaking of being underground, have you seen Kanal, also set in Poland, a brilliant depiction of the tragedy of the Home Army in the 1944 Warsaw Rising? Clio the Muse 09:19, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

I've heard of Kanal but when I read the description it didn't sound like the movie I've been looking for, neither does the desciption of Samson. I'll look them up and try to watch them, they sounded very good. The movie about the music students would have been made earlier than 1976, by my best recollection. Thanks for all the tips, everyone!

The movie in question is the 1975 American film "Operation Daybreak" starring Timothy Bottoms and Martin Shaw. I too was trying to find out the name of the film by using the internet and searching with the key words: film water rising heroes shoot each other. And I came across this wiki dialogue and traced it through the keys words in this Q and A. The power of the internet! Thanks! And on to search for it on DVD.

Snatch of tune from SWII: AotC[edit]

While watching Attack of the Clones in the cinema (a long time ago now) I heard a snatch of a tune I thought I recognised over a scene with a lot of clone troopers mounting (or dismounting from) transports. I initially thought I recognised it from one of the "original trilogy" sound tracks, but having listened to them over and over I can't spot it.

Then I came across Droid Invasion Theme which, according to the description, might be the one I'm looking for. It seems to have been played in the right place, and it certainly came from an earlier movie (although I'm disappointed it's episode I, not one of the older ones). However, I've no way of knowing right now whether it' the right one, as the article doesn't have a stave or sample. Is it the one that goes a bit like this?


Cheers. Rawling4851 15:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

writing a ficton novel[edit]

i need help. i'm a starting author and i need some help. i need an editor if one wants to vounlteer. i just plain need help with this. i can't do it my self. i have good ideas but trouble froming them toghter to make coherent thoughts for anyone but me. here is what i got so far. Dragoon: the Dragonfire experiment

Note form author: I hope you enjoy this book. This is my first time writing anything this big. To me a great book is a book that takes you places. Places like the moon with out leaving you home. I hope this book is like that for you. Dragooners unite!!! Jordan Lindsay

Prologue: It is the year 6140 A.D. In the year 6020 A.D. humanity had a huge chemical war. During this war 95% of the Earth was contaminated with radiation. Now Earthians have moved to the colonies in the Dagnahthe system. There are three major colonies and 6 minor. The major are Kanka, Sasasa, and Fightggaga. The minor are Sassad, Rujaf, Bulegasd, Uinolr, Higttere and Runvan. This is a history of the dragoons and me. The Historian, Mical Yas

Chapter 1: *This is it* I thought *I am going to get it this time.* I was late for my lessons on the planet’s history. (I know, I know I may call my self “The Historian” but during my youth I hated history, especially Earth history. The history about wars was interesting but we mostly talked about politics.) I was running though the streets of Callythe, the minor colony Rujaf’s capital. “Run Mical run” said Cantol, my dragon sprit. (Dragons have been extinct for 6000 years before Earthians showed up in the Dagnahthe system. Their sprits can only be found on three of the minor planets: Rujaf, Bulegasd, and Uinolr. Most of the time, though, people cannot see them. Only 5% of the general population can see them. Only 5% of the 5% can talk to them.) I finally made it to the class. “Why are you not wearing your soka?” Mr. Jonata asked. I realized I was wearing my house clothes. “I woke up late and didn’t have time to change,” I replied. “Lazy is more like it,” Mr. Jonata said, “you were probably hanging out with Jona.” My ears turned red. They always did when he talked about my friend, Jona. So what if I had a friend who was a 6th generation Earthian and therefore a Dagnahthean while I, myself, was just a 5th. “Sit down,” Mr. Jonta said; his voice cutting though my thoughts like a hot knife cutting though melted butter. I sat down. Jodab said, “Man you where cutting it close. How is Cantol?” “He is fine. What did I miss?” “Not much.” I finally listened to Mr. Jonta’s lesson. It was some stupid history about how the Earthians came to be in the Dagnahthe system. I had heard the story from my parents and they from theirs. I just doodled what Cantol looked like. At the end of class Mr. Jonta said, “Mical, I want to see you.” “Good luck” Jobad said. “Yes Mr. Jonta?” I asked. “Why are you always late to class?” said Mr. Jonta. “Because I can’t focus on school work.” “I know that is not true, during art you excel.” “Yes, but at drawing fantasy.” “Just because you focus on that dragon sprit that you claim you have.” “Just because you can’t see him doesn’t mean he doesn’t exist!” “Well until someone shows me different I say the dragon sprits do not exist. You may go.” “Yes sir,” I replied. I ran to the apartment I share with my brothers and my parents. As I went in the door, my mom yelled at me “to get in here” as she put it. “Yes?” “You were late again, weren’t you?” “Yes mom.” “Why? Were you talking with that Jona kid again?” “Mom, what is wrong with me spending time with him?” “He just looks bad, that’s what.” “Mom!!!” “Just go to your room.”

Chapter 2: 20 year later I had graduated from the basic school and was currently in college. I had heard from Jona that all available dragon whisperers are to report to the Admiral of the planet. When I got there I told the guards that I was here for an audience with the Admiral of the planet concerning the dragon whisperers. They let me through, and I went to the dining chamber. When I got there I found out that only 6 people had come. I was the 6th person. Much to my surprise, the other 5 were my friends. Jona was there. Jobad was too. There was also Regmad, Zoro, (his parents were Spanish so they named him after a Spanish hero) and Rfat. The admiral said, “Good, good, everybody is here.” I spoke up, saying, “What are we here for?” He replied, “I have heard about the whispers. My scientists want to know more about the sprits and their uses.” “Well, what can we tell them?” I asked. “How about the history of the dragons?” he said. “Okay but I doubt most of us can spend that much time here. I know I can’t because I am in college.” I stated “We will pay you and house you for free,” he commented. “You’ll also get free meals.” By this time, the food had arrived. We started to eat. After we ate, the Admiral said, “I’ll give you all a minute to talk among yourselves,” and left the room. “I don’t know about this…” said Zoro. “Yeah, I don’t like it.” agreed Rfat “Come on, free food, free homes, and payment for talking. It’s like we are politicians without a degree in politics.” I said. “I think Mical is right” said Cantol. “Haven’t seen you in a while” I said. “I’ve been around.” Cantol remarked Then Sasee, Jona’s sprit, appeared and said “I agree with Cantol. I would be happy to talk to them.” Then every one else’s sprits showed up. They numerously decided that we should stay. The admiral knocked on the door. “Have you decided yet?” he inquired. “Yes” we stated in unison.

[url=][img],wikipedia.png[/img][/url] 19:38, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

If you want advice, your writing needs some basic grammar and spelling proofreading. Secondly, some of your characters are introduced suddenly and with no background or context. Finally, your "chapters" are much too short to be considered chapters, and twenty or more of those would still likely not fill an average sized book. I hope that my comments are not taken as too harsh, but if you truly wish to improve, you should take all the constructive criticism you can get. - AMP'd 22:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC) P.S.: Check out our article on writing process.
I agree with most of the above. Sudden introductions of new characters can sometimes be an effective writing technique, though. There seems to be some confusion in the writing between dragons and dragoons, and the words form and from. StuRat 14:23, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I liked it. You should check out Wikipedia:Sandbox/Storytelling and post it there. You won't get much feedback though - its not like it used to be in the good old days How old are you? No, I'm not being stupid, its just I know some really good writing sites for teenagers. Think outside the box 13:01, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Also, Several of your characters have similar names, and it might be a good idea to establish a backstory explaining further the world in which this story takes place. Perhaps the teacher in the first chapter could help with that. - AMP'd 21:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

kk thanks i am 14. i will keep this advice in mind oh btw there is no confusion i am using the dragoons from the legend of dragoons.hope is all that keeps us going, jclindsay007

01:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

  • If you want to learn more about writing you should get yourself a critique group (you'll probably be most comfortable with the anonimity of an online one. Your chapters are indeed short. Think about the scene you see before you and describe it in more detail. See the Turkey City Lexicon for some things to avoid. Mgm|(talk) 09:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Opensource/legal/free MP3 of folk song[edit]

Hello all!

I'm putting together a project for my English Prof. and have been trying to find a free, legal MP3 of the folk song Oleanna. So far everything I have found has a copyright on it, or is a very short MIDI. Project Gutenberg doesn't seem to have anything.

Any ideas where I could find something?

Russia Moore 23:37, 20 April 2007 (UTC) has it. But you can only legally listen to it online. - Akamad 01:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)