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October 9[edit]

what is the name of the speech pattern, attitude pattern and form showcased by secret agents of government, military, black ops, mib etc?[edit]

Query repeated on Humanities desk—please respond there

always using verbose formal english, stoic but gives off a feeling as if agents are always optimistic, even during mission failure — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahfuzur rahman shourov (talk • contribs) 05:43, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Stiff upper lip? 196.213.35.146 (talk) 06:27, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Somebody please correct this[edit]

Go to Tell Her (Lonestar song). There's a message saying:

This song should not be confused with the female interpretation of "Tell Him". "Tell Him" (and Tell Her) is a song written and composed by Bert Berns, which was first recorded as "Tell Her" in 1962.

The song "Tell Him", which is what the above statement is talking about, is a female-singer song. (We know that some songs have both male and female-singer versions, and I understand the phrase female interpretation to mean "variant of a song originally sung by a man being sung by a woman". This description make no sense implies that the song being talked about ("Tell Him" in this case) is a male-singer song and that it's talking about what a female-singer version of the song would be.) Please fix the statement.

Important note for anyone who wants to make a post in this section about reference desks vs. talk pages as places to post messages on Wikipedia: I'm posting this here so that it can get more attention; many talk pages get so little attention.) Georgia guy (talk) 16:45, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I actually don't think it needs fixing. There is a "female" version of the song "Tell Him", which is a different song to the Lonestar song. I think the comment has been made because the Bert Berns song was a bigger hit than the Lonestar song and people might become confused. This sort of disambiguation is central to what Wikipedia does regarding information and clarification. --TammyMoet (talk) 17:40, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A "female" version of a song means a version of the song with a female singer, which "Tell Him" clearly does. What am I confusing?? Georgia guy (talk) 17:46, 9 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've now rewritten the sentence as a hatnote, which I hope makes the position clearer. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:44, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You're missing the change of the words to reflect the gender of the singer. The same song, sung by a female singer, has a different title because they've changed the words. Another example is the song "My Girl", which became "My Guy" when sung by a female singer, but was completely different to the song "My Guy" sung by Mary Wells. --TammyMoet (talk) 12:14, 10 October 2015 (UTC)[reply]