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[edit]Spanish naming
[edit]Would it be appropriate to add Jorge Villalpando Romo to the hatnote in Jorge Romo? Clarityfiend (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Because why? --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:59, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
- Because the Spanish have two surnames (the name hogs). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:50, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Related question: Should Villalpando be listed in Romo (surname)? Clarityfiend (talk) 01:04, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not that this proves anything, but I don't see Roberto Clemente in Walker (surname). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- It’s not really two surnames. The main family name (the patronymic) is the real surname (in this case, Villalpando), and the second one (the matronymic) is more on the order of an English middle name. Jorge Villalpando Romo belongs with other Villalpandos, but not with other Romos. Of course, there may be one or more true middle names, often taken from one's Feast day. —Stephen (talk) 13:22, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Roberto Clemente's Hall of Fame plaque originally said "Roberto Walker Clemente", using the American style of putting the father's name last. It was eventually changed to put the Walker last. A Spanish-speaking colleague of mine once said that anyone with only one surname might be assumed to not know who his father is. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 17:10, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- That's what I was looking for. Thanks, Steven G. Robby Walker: Puerto Rican icon. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:20, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
- Across the Guadiana it's different. A married lady Maria Almeida dos Santos was born an Almeida and married a dos Santos. Of course, there are other naming differences - a young unmarried woman is still Senhora rather than Senhorinha, for example - but does anyone know how and why this particular difference arose? 109.146.238.101 (talk) 23:30, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
- It’s not really two surnames. The main family name (the patronymic) is the real surname (in this case, Villalpando), and the second one (the matronymic) is more on the order of an English middle name. Jorge Villalpando Romo belongs with other Villalpandos, but not with other Romos. Of course, there may be one or more true middle names, often taken from one's Feast day. —Stephen (talk) 13:22, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
- Not that this proves anything, but I don't see Roberto Clemente in Walker (surname). ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:01, 18 June 2016 (UTC)