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The
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Adventure


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Welcome to the Interstellar Lounge and Cafe!


More funky, or…

…less funky.


'Sit down, have a cup. While you're here something to muse on:'

Think about what an awesome trip you're on,
How many millions of people benefit from Wikipedia every day,
How marvelous it is that people all over the world have collaborated to create this unique resource,
How important sharing knowledge is,
How people working together over time can do amazing things.

Hope that was an inspiring musing. 😎-----😇

Get help[edit]

Need help with something in The Wikipedia Adventure?

What to do next[edit]

Tips for feedback[edit]

Tell us what you liked about it, where we could improve, and what you learned

How you can help
  • Play the game all the way through. Do you get stuck anywhere? Is anything unclear?
  • Finish the game if you only played a few missions: Give some attention to missions 5-7 (which have been tested much less)
  • Start over fresh with a new account: Like User:OcaasiTWA17 (these are legitimate alternate testing accounts and are not considered sockpuppets)
  • Try a different browser: If you used Safari, try Firefox (or Chrome, Internet Explorer, Opera...)
  • Show the game to a friend or family member to see how they like it and if they get stuck anywhere
In your feedback, please include any of your thoughts on
  • text instructions within the game
  • graphic placement
  • bugs in the tour mechanics
  • your web browser
  • your screen resolution
  • which step of the tour you were on if something didn't work (see the step= in the url)
  • what you liked
  • what you didn't like
  • what you think would work better
  • your thoughts on the design: the theme, the guide, the characters, the colors, the images, the sounds
known bugs
Bug Stats
  • Fixed: 188!
  • Remaining: 3

Not fixable this version[edit]

  • Lingering Dialog Boxes: If you leave the tour without finishing, the guider dialog boxes will follow you until you [x] out of them (this is a Guided Tours issue generally and there's no easy fix) Example
  • Vector Only: If you're using monobook or modern etc., the layout won't work. Almost all new editors will be using Vector, so this is a known, acceptable trade-off
  • Old Internet Explorer: The game is not compatible with older versions of IE. IE8 doesn't work. Try IE9 or even better IE10.
  • Source Editor Only: The game doesn't work with Visual Editor. It could, but it won't be fixed until VE is stable and out of opt-in beta. Example
  • Mobile and Tablet Formatting Fails: While tested for most modern desktop and laptop browsers, the game is not configured to work properly on tablets and other smaller devices. It may, but we'd be getting lucky.
  • Doesn't scale to my preference of window size or scale symmetrically (ctrl 0/-/+). FF 25. (@start)

Fixable (working on these now)[edit]

mechanics[edit]

  • Reply using edit section links in some places rather than full page edit Example
  • There's no way to jump ahead if you are repeating steps or trying to get back to where you left off mid-mission.
  • If you [x] out of the tour, especially if so you can edit, then there's no way to get back to where you were (see example fix above for a 'skip' option) (should skips go per step, or per chunk?) Example
  • Galactic challenge box has only an [x] and a back button, is it clear you answer the question below? Example
Sorry to cut in, but I didn't realize that "Challenge yourself..." did anything beyond cheer-leading you to continue the game. Thanks for posting this. Wordreader (talk) 01:18, 13 March 2014 (UTC)
  • Back buttons on edit summary steps are being cut off at the bottom, no way to go back to edit instructions.
  • "Challenge yourself..." box only displays the words "Challenge yourself..." and stays in a fixed place of the monitor at mission 5 step 7 and the following page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ælfwynya (talkcontribs) 17:58, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

usability[edit]

  • warning, only click buttons that post message once?
  • a way to say 'yes, i've done this already, skip ahead?' (add skip forward button?) Example
  • Restart Repeats: If you replay, a mission, the messages will be resent to you (the tour doesn't 'know' if you've played before). To better retest the game, create a legitimate alternate testing account (e.g. OcaasiTWA17) which is not considered a sockpuppet at all.

content[edit]

  • TWA doesn't use/introduce cite templates
  • no mention of plagiarism and copy/paste problems
  • no mention of Show Preview
  • too many smileys?

design[edit]

Feedback on course completion[edit]

Endless Looping on the Edit Summary and Publish feature[edit]

i cannot get past this part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Denkiden (talkcontribs) 16:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

I, too, cannot get past this part. Using Google Chrome, OSX 14, with adblocker and html5 autoplay blocker. Dolphin and anchor (talk) 20:49, 10 April 2019 (UTC)

I got stuck on this, then discovered that I could get past it if I copied and pasted the precise edit summary offered by the instructions. I did that for the remainder of the adventure. I am playing it on Pale Moon. Nightsmaiden (talk) 07:19, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

I copied and pasted and still kept looping--disappointed I was unable to finish and get more info on how to edit. Also had this problem when I tried to repeat a module that I really need to learn better!

Second Earth page contains weasel words[edit]

I don't think there should be weasel words in an example article used to help new editors. I added a template where they are in my version (which contains numerous large images, apologies). InvalidOS (talk) 16:28, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

Very well done, good advices / guidance.

What I didn't like

Nothing to add.

What I wanted more of

A part on pages location / link / architecture (how to create a new page / how to reference it).

What was unnecessary

...

Any other thoughts you want to share

Thank you very much!!.

--KlulK (talk) 09:12, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

... I really liked the whole story! It helped me somehow to learn the most basics with the funniest way!

What I didn't like

...

What I wanted more of

... A good improvement is that you could add a story about reverting vandalism, and a few more I can't remember now.

What was unnecessary

...

Any other thoughts you want to share

... Needs a little more development, like a stellar map or relevant things, but it is very good in it's present form! --Enivak (talk) 18:28, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Feedback from Nightsmaiden[edit]

I think the instructions overall were fine. I would encourage the addition of a bit of instruction on how to use the Preview feature, as use of this is an excellent way to be confident that once you hit Publish, it's actually something you can stand behind, and not one of a series of trial-and-error steps. For example, it took me three tries to get the link to my username to work properly in my section header.

Unless there is some actual guideline encouraging editors to disclose their physical location, I think it might be better to simply state that "Earth" is sufficiently specific for the purposes of the adventure when specifying location. I have no issue standing behind my edits, but given that anything on the internet tends to become indelible and all edits on Wikipedia are logged, not everyone will want to give a location for the purposes of a tutorial. I ended up adding a link to internet privacy instead, but I wasn't sure if that was going to glitch anything.

It was amusing but not confusing when the text said that all of my edits were to my own User and Talk pages, as I also got my notification of 100 edits while I was playing the adventure. (I have mostly been doing grammatical corrections and the like thus far.)

In the section about adding images, I think it would have been preferable for the Adventure to provide images that were relevant to each section, and include the step of giving them relevant captions, as I am fairly sure the images I added to the Earth entry would have been removed as not being relevant to the content they accompanied, with the exception of the Blue Marble image.

As noted above, I did experience the loop after editing my Talk summary, but I was able to get past it by entering precisely the text provided. I had originally added an exclamation point; I am not sure if that is a special character in Wiki markup or not.

I ran the entire adventure in Pale Moon 28.6.0.1 under Windows 10. My screen resolution is 1920x1080, and all the prompts appeared to be correctly placed for their purpose.

My impression is that the majority of the adventure needs to be slightly updated to the current Wikipedia editing layout, as it repeatedly referenced buttons that don't exist or exist in slightly different forms. I don't have an "edit source" button once I have chosen the source editor, only an option to switch to the Visual Editor when I begin editing, for example.

Explicitly letting people know which aspects of the adventure are live edits (one's own User Page) and which are not (the various TWA) pages might be a good thing, but I think many people will pick up on the fact that the dark-bordered pages are not part of Wikipedia proper. Nightsmaiden (talk) 12:52, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

...I really liked the way that the examples provided bad behavior and explanations why those behaviors were bad.

What I didn't like

...I was not sure if the whole tutorial would be ended if I left the screen between tutorials. I understood that if I closed the single box this would close the tutorial but was not sure if closing the whole window between tutorials would restart the tutorial. I also found it difficult to navigate back to the tutorial when I left the page.

What I wanted more of

...I found myself worrying that I would forget what I learned. I know I can do the tutorial again but if there were summaries after each tutorial to reference this could be useful to me in the future.

What was unnecessary

...I did not find anything unnecessary.

Any other thoughts you want to share

...I absolutely loved this and everything about it. I loved the tone and the educative capacity of this tutorial. just bravo!

--Jrdndaniels (talk) 23:10, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

It's a really nice introduction to the base functions of the site. It really makes (trying) to join the site feel less like jumping into a pool without being able to swim. The way it also introduces the tone most interactions should lie on is also really good.

What I didn't like

I some times forgot to push the buttons, and ended up slightly ahead of the guide. As a result, I had to go back and make a minor change and re-submit in order to be able to continue.

What I wanted more of

...

What was unnecessary

I can't think of anything unnecessary. It covered everything necessary to get started.

Any other thoughts you want to share

...

--OliviaZoe0 (talk) 21:17, 15 July 2019 (UTC)

How can I repeat a module without looping?[edit]

I tried to go through a module of the Wikipedia Adventure, but ended up getting stuck in an infinite loop. When I started on a new module, I accidentally hit the close button (X) a few frames in, and when I tried to do the module again, I got stuck in the same "type and publish" loop. How do I get around this, please? I need to go through the module about inserting references again, and I'd also like to finish the last module. SR-CJC (talk) 23:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)

Feedback[edit]

What I liked

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Took me interactively through the basics
What I didn't like

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It was great... if I had to be critical, the box "Challenge yourself" not closing was a bit distracting. Also I had to leave the adventure to set my editor to source. I knew how to do this others might not.
What I wanted more of

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at this stage I think its sufficient
What was unnecessary

...

Any other thoughts you want to share

... Sorry I didn't find this sooner. I lost heart as I was finding the entry to editing foggy. This adventure as just what I needed. --pcmcreative (talk) 19:46, 6 August 2019 (UTC)