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2/7th Battalion (Australia)[edit]

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A Victorian infantry battalion of the 2nd AIF, the 2/7th was raised as part of the 6th Division. After taking part in the initial battles that the Australians fought in the North African campaign, the 2/7th took part in the fighting in Greece and then Crete. Their most significant action probably came at 42nd Street on Crete, after which the majority of the battalion was captured. After being rebuilt, the battalion undertook garrison duties in Ceylon before fighting several campaigns against the Japanese in New Guinea. This article recently underwent a GA review and I am hoping to improve it further through the ACR process. Thank you to all who stop by. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:45, 15 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:54, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from The Bounder
  • Should "Bren Carrier" be capitalised? (Infobox image caption)
  • You've got both WWII and SWW: should this be consistent throughout? (There is also a WWI in the mix too)
  • Should "all volunteer" be hyphenated? (I am not at all sure about the use, so it may be right as it is!)
  • This is quite a long sentence that carries a lot, using a lot of sub-clauses: "Consisting of four rifle companies – designated 'A' to 'D' – under a headquarters company and a battalion headquarters,[3] like other 2nd AIF infantry battalions raised at the time, the battalion had an authorised strength of around 900 personnel." Perhaps this could be split into two for ease?
  • Do you need "which had served during World War I" in "...7th Battalion which had served during World War I"? You mention the First WW connection not that long before.
  • Should militia be capitalised? (I don't know what the norm is about this on WP, so it's a question asked in ignorance!)
    • In this case, yes, as it was the proper name of the Army Reserve at the time. AustralianRupert (talk) 23:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • What does "After concentrating" mean? (It looks like they all had a very hard think before doing something!)
    • Essentially it means that the battalion's personnel came together at the same location. We have a link for "force concentration" but the Wikipedia article on this doesn't capture this aspect of it very well (focusing mainly on the combat application of the term), so it is useless as a link. Just changed it to "reported for duty". AustralianRupert (talk) 23:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The Victorians later saw action..." There is a facetious part to me that wonders how those of the Victorian era were involved!
    • Just went with "2/7th" although I had been hoping to vary my pronouns a little more. AustralianRupert (talk) 23:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Down to the "Fighting in New Guinea" section: more to follow in the morning. I hope these are of use. All the best, The Bounder (talk) 22:46, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

G'day, thanks for taking a look. These are my changes so far: [1]. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 23:33, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The changes look good. Final batch of minor niggles below.

  • "In early 1942, the Australian government requested the return of the 6th Division following Japan's entry into the war and the battalion embarked for Australia aboard the troopship HMT Westernland" reads slightly bumpily. Perhaps "In early 1942, following Japan's entry into the war, the Australian government requested the return of the 6th Division; the battalion embarked for Australia aboard the troopship HMT Westernland", or similar?
  • Should late 1943 and early 1944 be hyphenated? (I'm never sure about compound modifiers, so there is a chance that I'm wrong on the point!)
  • Ditto with late September and early October.
  • Shouldn't the numbers of medals all be numerals, rather than also switching into words?
    • Yes, you are right. The MOS does say this. Frankly, I think the MOS is retrograde here, as it flies in the face of what I was brought up with at school and in the military, but I'm nothing if not a conformist. AustralianRupert (talk) 06:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • FWIW, I agree entirely, and it's one of the things that goes against my long-standing practice and preference. - The Bounder (talk) 07:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
  • Should the date format for the c/os be xxxx-xxxx?

That's my lot, an enjoyable read on something I had no idea about previously! All the best, The Bounder (talk) 05:54, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to review. I've made those changes now: [2] Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:27, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure to review. It's engagingly written and summarises enough to provide a full picture without excessive detail. Support. All the best, The Bounder (talk) 07:11, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support on prose per my standard disclaimer. These are my edits. - Dank (push to talk) 14:40, 19 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support
    • No dabs, external links check out, no duplicate links, images all have alt text, no issues with reference consolidation, and the Earwig tool detects no issues with close paraphrase or copyright violation [3] (no action req'd).
    • Prose in the lead is a bit repetitive: "After basic training was completed in Australia, the battalion embarked for the Middle East as part of the first batch of Australian troops to deploy overseas. After further training in Palestine, the battalion went into action against the Italians in January 1941. After participating in the successful capture of Bardia and Tobruk, it was committed to the disastrous Battles of Greece and Crete, where the battalion was essentially destroyed after the majority of its personnel were captured. After being rebuilt rebuilt in Palestine, the 2/7th undertook garrison duties in Syria and then Ceylon before being transported back to Australia in August 1942. In January 1943, the battalion was deployed to New Guinea, taking part in the fighting against the Japanese in the Salamaua–Lae campaign until October 1943. After a period... " (5 x sentence starting the same one consecutively).
    • "In November, a detachment of the battalion's Bren carrier crews were sent to support the Australian and US units fighting around Buna–Gona..." I wonder if the reason for this should be included for context (i.e. as a desperate makeshift measure in the absence of tanks in the theatre, which of course the carriers were anything but - there is a bit on this sad episode in Hopkins Australian Armour pp. 111-112).
    • I made a couple of minor edits [4], hopefully they are helpful.
    • Otherwise the changes that have occurred since I last reviewed look good to me. Anotherclown (talk) 09:37, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
      • Thanks for taking a look. Your changes look good to me, and I think I've fixed the issues you identify above. These are my edits: [5]. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:27, 20 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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