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On this WP:WSS subpage, you can propose new stub types (please read the procedures beforehand!), as well as the reorganization and subdivision of existing stub types. You can also discuss anything else related to stubs on the talk page.

Proposing new stub types – procedure[edit]

Important: If you wish to propose the creation of a stub ARTICLE you've come to the wrong place. If you don't have a username yourself, please go to WP:AFC for proposing a new article. If you already have a username, you can create the article yourself. If you don't know how, add {{Helpme}} to your user talk page to request help from other editors. This page only deals with stub TEMPLATES and CATEGORIES; we cannot help you with creating articles.

Proposing new stub types
If you wish to propose a new stub category and template, please follow these procedures:
  1. Check the List of stub types or under Category:Stub categories to make sure that your proposed new stub does not already exist.
  2. List it at the top of the current month's section, under a header, like the ones shown (if any). Sign it with a datestamp (~~~~).
    • Please bear in mind that a stub category isn't about the importance or notability of the topic!
  3. Find a good number[1] of stub articles, as many as you can, that will fit that template. You may use this tool to scan through categories; tagged stubs are always in Category:All stub articles and transclude {{asbox}}. Each of these articles can be:
    • currently marked with {{stub}};
    • currently marked with another type of stub tag (in which case you should justify why your tag is better for the article than the current one);
    • a stub whose categorisation is highly ambiguous or questionable;
    • not marked as a stub.
  4. If you use any category scan (from the tool mentioned above or from any other), please link to it so that other users can confirm that the results are still accurate.
  5. Others may do the same, if they so desire.
  6. 5 days after listing it here, if there is general approval or no objection, go ahead and create the new category and/or template following the format on Wikipedia:Stub. List the new stub type on the stub types list in an appropriate section. If consensus is not clear, or discussion is still ongoing, the proposal will remain open until consensus can be reached.
  7. If you wish to propose a stub type which does not currently have 60 articles that could use it, you may propose an upmerged template in a similar way. An upmerged template would feed into currently existing stub categories until such time that there are enough stubs for a separate stub category. At that point a category for it may be separately proposed. Some times, it may be difficult to be sure how many stubs would get a tag - in which case you can also start with an upmerged stub tag until you're sure there are enough.

DO NOT place a proposal here for any stub type which has already been created and is being discussed at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion. The proposal page is only for stub types that have not yet been created, and it is better to keep any discussion of such stub types in one place rather than splitting it between different pages. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion is the correct page for proposals to delete a stub type.

^ . Good number means about 60 articles or more, or 30 or more if it is the primary stub type of a WikiProject, though this figure may vary from case to case.

"Speedy creation"[edit]

A stub type may be proposed for "speedy creation" if it meets one of the following criteria:

  • S1 - the creation of a category for which an approved upmerged template already exists and is now in use on more than 60 articles.
  • S2 - the creation of an upmerged national-level template for a subject in which other such national-level templates currently exist (e.g., X-bio-stub, X-hist-stub, or X-geo-stub, where X is the name of an internationally widely recognised country) or other instances where a clearly established pattern of similar subtypes exists. The proposed topic may not be controversial in scope. Many templates qualifying for S2 are listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/To do/To create.

List speedy creation proposals in the same proposal listings as normal stub proposals below.

Proposals, June 2018[edit]

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

NEW PROPOSALS[edit]

Moths yet again: Proposal for a (upmerged?) template & a template+category (EDIT: &2 more temp+cats)[edit]

I would like to propose the following templates, for-now upmerged to Category:Moth stubs:

  • {{Thyrididae-stub}}. Moth family consisting of four subfamilies, a bit over 50 genera and somewhere between several hundred and a thousand species. However, by and far most articles do not exist yet. I would estimate that at the moment somewhere between 55 and 65 applicable stubs exist. (If I could get the permission to create a category without having to return here if and only if after stub-sorting I find that sixty or more applicable stubs exist, that'd be awesome)

While I'm at it, I would also like to propose the following template and category:

  • {{Immidae-stub}}/Category:Immidae stubs, as subcategory of Category:Moth stubs. 191 stubs exist and are currently placed in Moth stubs (5 monotypic genera; genus Moca and 27 species stubs; genus Alampa and 2 species stubs; genus Birthana and 9 species stubs; genus Bursadella and 10 species stubs; 134 species stubs in genus Imma) A few more might exist elsewhere (for example as currently-untagged stubs) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 08:44, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Since no one has responded yet, may as well add the following in the same section:

Proposing creation of the following templates+subcategories to Category:Zygaenoidea stubs:

Speedy creation (S1) of category for upmerged template Scythrididae-stub transcluded on 450+ pages[edit]

{{Scythrididae-stub}} is still upmerged but is, per the template transclusion count tool transcluded on 468 pages and thus well overdue a category creation. AddWittyNameHere (talk) 13:09, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Speedy away! Pegship (talk) 03:46, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
Creation of Category:Scythrididae stubs and retargeting the template are  Done AddWittyNameHere (talk) 21:31, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Iranian radio station stubs[edit]

I would like to propose {{Iran-radio-station-stub}}, to be upmerged into the existing categories Asian radio station stubs and Iranian media stubs The first article to be tagged with {{Iran-radio-station-stub}} would be Radio Farhang Eastmain (talkcontribs) 23:15, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Eastmain: Just one? Can you find any more? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 08:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Redrose64: The licenced radio stations listed at List of radio stations in Iran, http://www.logect.com/live/radio/iran/ and https://www.internet-radio.com/search/?radio=iran (not counting the Interenet-only stations) could probably all be the subject of stub articles. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 13:14, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
@Eastmain: Tentative Support upmerged template until those articles are created. Pegship (talk) 14:47, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

American football wide receiver, 1990s birth stubs[edit]

There are already existing stubs for each birth decade from 1890s until 1980s, and so adding the most recent decade makes sense. Moreover, there are about fifty articles to which this stub could be currently applied. Deville (Talk) 15:08, 10 June 2018 (UTC)

No objections? Deville (Talk) 14:08, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Have at it. Pegship (talk) 14:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, set it up like Category:American football wide receiver, 1980s birth stubs. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:37, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Proposals, May 2018[edit]

Perfumers[edit]

I don't think this template is needed. There are only 61 total perfumers with articles in Category:Perfumers, and based on random sampling, it looks like less than half of these are stubs. We generally do not create stub templates with so little potential for growth. Perfumers are currently being sorted using {{fashion-bio-stub}} which is not oversized. --Qetuth (talk) 08:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Looking at the history of the "to create" page, I see that this template was added to the "arts" list by RevengeOfTheRobots, along with a false date (this was never discussed as far as I can find). I'm guessing that the user realized that this Proposals page was the correct place to request the template and then moved it here. (Though I'm a bit suspicious of the "Aug 2008" date cited. Hmm.) Anyway, we definitely don't need a stub type for this subject, per Qetuth's comment about viability. Do not create. Pegship (talk) 17:17, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I was like holy cow what did I just do then I tried to delete as soon as possible. But I also think people in the arts of fragrance don't fit perfectly in the fashion world. What about aromas and scents that exist outside of perfume and cologne. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RevengeOfTheRobots (talkcontribs) 06:35, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

Australian people stubs[edit]

Some speedy Australian templates and categories:

Also, I was going to propose an upmerged {{Australia-handball-bio-stub}} for the intersection of {{oceania-handball-bio-stub}} and {{Australia-sport-bio-stub}}, but I have just realised that this applies to every single transclusion of the oceania template - I'm not sure what the best solution here is. --Qetuth (talk) 14:24, 19 May 2018 (UTC)


Propose stub subcategory "Pyrausta (moth)" within stub category Pyraustinae[edit]

There's a stub category for a subfamily of moths--Pyraustinae--with over 1300 articles listed. I recently went through the NON-stub category for the same subfamily, and separated out the genus Pyrausta as a subcategory. That new subcategory contains 295 articles, and I estimate that a subcategory for Pyrausta stubs will have about as many. With approval, I will undertake it. I've completed much larger projects here. And I recently did a new stub category and set up a stub template. So this one should go a little faster because I won't be figuring out from scratch what a stub template is and how to create one. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:53, 15 May 2018 (UTC)

Anybody looking at these, lately? Perhaps if I add a remark, it'll come back to the top of people's attention. I'd like to undertake this project, but in two weeks, I haven't gotten a yea or a nay. Uporządnicki (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, in view of the declined gastropod request (below), is this something that the Lepidoptera people would be OK with? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:16, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
Point taken. I actually did, as I said, already create a non-stub subcategory for Pyrausta. And I've been at these things for many years, and have only run into that concern with the gastropods. But I'll run something up the flagpole at the Lepidoptera project page and see who salutes. Uporządnicki (talk) 13:01, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
For what it's worth, like I also said on the WikiProject page, it shouldn't be an issue. We've got several other genus-level stub cats scattered through our stub tree, some of which have been requested by me in the past and none of which have led to any complaints to the best of my knowledge.
(To be fair, I have just returned from a year-long absence. While it's possible things have changed, all the genus-level stubcats I know of in Lepidoptera still stand, nothing was said on my usertalk during my absence and no complaints were raised on the WikiProject talkpage. Indeed, a far more unusual division was proposed (dividing a stub-cat by alphabetic groupings of genera names) and the only comment it got on our WikiProject was an agreement. (It does not, however, seem to have been implemented). This makes me at mildest strongly suspect the WikiProject's stance is still the same: genus-level stub-sorting is fine.) AddWittyNameHere (talk) 17:56, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Stub template/category page for Odostomia, under Pyramidellidae[edit]

Proposals, April 2018[edit]

Start dividing {{Mountain-stub}} and its continent equivalents into countries as well[edit]

This is not exactly the request for a single stub, but rather multiple stubs. The reason for this is with only diving mountain stubs into continents, there are many more intricate stubs that are sub-cats of the geo-stub: countries, states, and even cities. If we could divide the mountains stubs into at least countries to start off with, that would allow for the "system" of mountain stubs to have many more pages, and therefore be a lot more productive (remember, my original request was at state level). I am by no means saying we should divide it into all of the continents in the world right away - I would probably start with some of the South America country categories that have a lot of pages in them.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 13:50, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

  • The following are not countries, but they are rather subdivisions of Antarctica. I decided the list them here because they had a crazy yield when I used PetScan:
    • How does that sound, Pegship (I'm pinging you because you seem to be one of the few users who are very active in stub sorting)? It's been 5 days, so if you approve of this I'll go ahead and create these.--SkyGazer 512 talk / contributions / subpages 17:00, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
      • Sounds good to me. If no one else has a comment, I'd say proceed in good faith. Pegship (talk) 17:12, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

French actress stub[edit]

Washington (state) geography stub sub-cats[edit]

Oberea stubs[edit]

Proposals, March 2018[edit]

North Dakota geography stubs[edit]

New York mountain and hill stubs[edit]

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa geography stubs sub-cats part deux[edit]

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa geography stubs sub-cats[edit]

Proposals, February 2018[edit]

Scottish nobility[edit]

Category:Georgia (U.S. state) people stubs / GeorgiaUS-bio-stub[edit]

Category:Göttingen district geography stubs‎[edit]

New Brunswick school stubs[edit]

Economic terminology stubs[edit]

Spilomelinae sub-cat[edit]

Proposals, January 2018[edit]

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

Category:Andalusia stubs / {{Andalusia-stub}}[edit]