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Proposals, December 2020

Lamiinae stubs

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Yesterday this was our second largest category. It has been halved in size with a bit more work to go (and three newly oversized categories to review!). There is one genus with enough articles in this category to get a category, which will be a subcat of Category:Pteropliini stubs:

There are also a number of tribes without a permcat but based on the information in the articles these will have enough articles for categories:

This should get this off the oversized list.Waacstats (talk) 00:09, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

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Spilomelinae stubs

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Currently our largest category. Giving this a good look through I have found only 1 genus that would be suitable for a category and template as there are 79 articles:

However I did also find a number of tribes that do not have permcats but based on the information in the articles and a count of the stub category would yield 60+ articles, that would bring this down a bit further and given that most of the splits are by tribe I would also like to propose the following:

This dosen't remove it from the list but a category under 1000 is better than one over 2000. Waacstats (talk) 15:15, 29 December 2020 (UTC)

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Tree stubs

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Oversized, over three hundred articles under Category:Rosid stubs have a {{Tree-stub}} so to cut this one down to size I suggest:

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Asparagales stubs

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Oversized and growing. I propose split as below, this should reduce this category dramatically:

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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United States sculpture stubs

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Oversized, obvious split is by state, an initial look shows the following would all be viable reducing the category by more than half and taking it off the oversized list.

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Altai Krai geography stubs

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Oversized, Russian Krai's are split into districts and this one has 59 districts. I propose the following templates, those districts whose articles have been disambiguated I have done so in the templates by adding ALT (hopefully caught them all without going OTT), and those that reach 60 should get a category of the form Fooian district geography stubs or Fooian district, Altai Krai geography stubs where the template has been disambiguated:

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Puerto Rico geography stubs

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Oversized, Puerto Rico is split into 78 municipalities and no first order split. I propose we template by municipality and merge these into senatorial districts, we then have a problem with two of the municipalities that appear to be split between two districts. My thoughts are to leave these two templates upmerged to the national geo category rather than either trying to split between the districts or merging to both. Obviously we only create categories if these pass 60.

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Church of England archdeacon stubs

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Oversized, none of the diocese appear to have enough articles for a category but there are two provinces both of whom would have enough articles and should split the category fairly equally between the two with very few if any left over.

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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American state court judges

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Oversized, ssuggest we split by state, If I have counted correctly the following are both viable:

This won't reduce it below 800 but it is a start. Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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India rail transport stubs

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oversized category, over 500 of the articles appear to be in Category:Express trains in India so I suggest

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Australian Labor Party politician stubs

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Oversized, we have already split out the federal politicians, I suggest we split by state parliament giving us the following viable categories

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Satyrinae stubs

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Oversized subfamily, the following tribes and genera should cut these butterflys down to size:

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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Institutional Revolutionary deputy stubs

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Oversized category. Best split that I can see is by date of birth

Waacstats (talk) 00:19, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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2020s pop song stubs

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Per Category:2010s pop song stubs, Category:2000s pop song stubs, etc. (For starters, Girls Night Out (Debbie Gibson song), albeit a very non-NPOV article, would fit under that category.) Erpert blah, blah, blah... 13:30, 24 December 2020 (UTC)

Feel free to change the stub category accordingly; this is a place for proposing new stub templates and categories. Her Pegship (?) 22:10, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
I believe Erpert is proposing a new category and template along the lines of 2020s pop song stubs {{2020s-pop-song-stub}}. Assuming there are over 60 articles (which will be the case eventually) I see no reason not to have the template and the category. Waacstats (talk) 23:30, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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British Columbia Interior geography stubs

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Another one on the oversized list. British Columbia is split into regional districts, I propose the following with categories only for those templates that pass 60 (If my quick scan is correct this will only be Cariboo):

Names are taken from the categories as these are inconsistent and I do not know enough of Canadian geography I have not attempted to standardize these. Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Arkansas geography stubs

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Oversized, for US States we usually split by county and upmerge to regions where counties are insufficient. I propose the following set up:

with any county that does make it passed getting a category of the form Foo County, Arkansas geography stubs within the the same region as the template would have been placed.Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Khyber Pakhtunkhwa

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Oversied category, partly split by district categories and templates. I notice that some districts have not been proposed in the past and one has split since they were created. I propose the following templates and categories, fed by the new as well as existing templates as follows

Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

  • I was the creator of those district-level templates, and I didn't create one for every district because some would have only two or three locations in them. Your division-level parent cats are a good solution to the districts with fewer stub articles. Support. Her Pegship (?) 00:13, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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Spilosomina stubs

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Oversized, the following genus' have perm cats and would have sufficient stub articles for a category

this will reduce it below 800. Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Notodontidae stubs

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Oversized family, perm cat is not split other than geographically which I don't think we want to go down. The following appear to be viable family splits.

The article on the family polypoetas is at Polypoetes (moth), however as the article Polypoetas appears to be a disambiguation page for greek mythological figures I doubt we will have a category for them and so I have left "(moth)" off of the stub category name. Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Lamiini stubs

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oversized, no permcat for this but it appears to be a genuine family and have more than 60 articles and will get another off the oversized list.

Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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American medical biography stubs

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oversized, as most of these relate to physicians the obvious is:

there appear to be enough none physicians (nurses, dentists admins etc) for this to not be oversized. Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Tasmania geography stubs

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Tasmania is split into 29 LGA's grouped into 6 Local Government regions. Most of the articles I looked at have the LGA mentioned in the article, but not necessarily the region. I therefore propose templates by LGA upmerged to regional categories (assuming 60+ articles per region). This would mean the following once you take out spaces and punctuation and add TAS to any needing disambiguation (I think I caught them all without going OTT):

Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Canadian television show stubs

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oversized, the following by genre splits seem reasonably sized and should get the last TV related category off the list.

Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

    • As there was a recent discussion at cfd about "show" versus "season" versus "series", I recommend replacing "series" with "show" in two of the proposed category names. Her Pegship (?) 00:16, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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Scaritinae stubs

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Another oversized beetles category

Waacstats (talk) 21:33, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

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Valdez–Cordova Census Area, Alaska geography stubs

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The result of the debate was split as proposed by Molandfreak.
The Valdez–Cordova Census Area was split into the Chugach Census Area and the Copper River Census Area nearly two years ago. Since no one else has bothered all this time, I am attempting to organize content appropriately ahead of the anticipated 2020 Census reports. I'm not sure either new category would meet whatever threshold you're seeking, so any advice would be appreciated. Category:Alaska geography stubs exists as a catch-all in any event. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 06:39, 17 December 2020 (UTC)

Hi there - Currently it looks like Copper Creek stub articles add up to around 32, and Chugash only 2; if you're in the process of assigning permcats for the stub articles, I suggest we wait until that's done and then reassess the numbers. Her Pegship (?) 02:13, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
@Pegship:, I'm not sure how you arrived at that figure, considering that the existing Category:Valdez–Cordova Census Area, Alaska geography stubs presently contains 102 entries. In contrast to the example of Arkansas I viewed above, there was community consensus in 2016 to do away with categorization by region in the case of Alaska (see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2016 July 18#Category:Bristol Bay Borough, Alaska geography stubs). Per that consensus, if there truly isn't enough content for two separate categories, you can at least split {{ValdezCordovaAK-geo-stub}} and use Category:Alaska geography stubs to place whatever content that remains. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 23:05, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
@RadioKAOS:: I think I used PetScan, but I think I went to the wrong parent category (Geography of Unorganized Borough, Alaska by census area). I'm sure you're right. Her Pegship (?) 02:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
  • I'm copying the proposal below from CfD as relevant to this discussion; this is the first clear proposal for a split that I have found among the various discussions.
Nominator's rationale: The census area was split in 2019, but this category was never modified for some reason. Molandfreak (talk, contribs, email)
Support per Molandfreak. Her Pegship (?) 18:32, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
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Dagestan geography stubs

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Category:Northern Caucasus geography stubs is almost oversized at 770, almost entirely through {{Dagestan-geo-stub}} (692), so I propose Category:Dagestan geography stubs. Old Man Consequences (talk) 13:41, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

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Help!

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template has passed 60 and eligable for a category, however the category above is used for a continental grouping used by the ICC (international governing body). I propose using the existing category for the US players and creating a Category:ICC American cricket biography stubs or a Category:Americas cricket biography stubs. Any preference or better ideas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waacstats (talk • contribs) 22:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Argentine handball biography stubs

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No oversized categories here but I have noticed that the majority of the articles in Category:Pan-American handball biography stubs at the time of writing are also marked with {{Argentina-sport-bio-stub}} so, given that there are more than 60, I propose

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Waacstats (talk • contribs) 22:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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New Zealand winter sports biography stubs

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We already have templates such as {{NewZealand-alpine-skiing-bio-stub}}, {{NewZealand-bobsleigh-bio-stub}}, {{NewZealand-freestyle-skiing-bio-stub}}, {{NewZealand-snowboarding-bio-stub}}, {{NewZealand-speed-skating-bio-stub}} and an undersized Category:New Zealand curling biography stubs. I propose bringing these together under a Category:New Zealand winter sports biography stubs with a {{NewZealand-wintersport-bio-stub}}. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waacstats (talk • contribs) 22:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

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Sports organizations

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Not quite over 800 but just bubbling under. The following should keep it down for a while longer

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College basketball stubs

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Again not quite oversized but should be fairly easy to get this down in size and stop it becoming too large

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Sledge hockey

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Going through the paralympic medalist stubs recently I notice there are sufficient athletes to have a template and category for this interesting sport.

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