Wikipedia talk:Avoid thread mode
I agree with this essay. The sort of thing you're speaking out against here goes hand in hand with other unencyclopedic styles, as set out in WP:BETTER, commonly combined with advertising, unwikified articles, uncategorised articles, unreferenced articles, non-notable articles, etcetera.--h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 23:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
- Great essay!
- I came across this phenomenon a long time ago, but I didn't know there was an essay about it!
- However, people have often disagreed with me -- although I've been a Wikipedian for a long time, but that doesn't mean anything. I've made a lot of edits, but a user's edit count does not necessarily reflect on the value of their contributions to Wikipedia... -- Rico 21:12, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
I am not sure that I fully agree with these endorsements. While I can appreciate that it leads to less conflict, and is therefore less demanding on editors, I am not so sure that it leads to an achievement of Wiki's purpose regarding its clients. Let us take the case of Creation–evolution_controversy - specifically radiometric dating. As it is currently structured in Wiki, WP:ATM is not respected. The reader is supplied with the two views juxtaposed in a section of the sub-topic. Exactly the same applies to the sub-sections Cosmology, Transitional Fossils, Geology, etc. Imagine that the structure were changed to a presentation of the Creationist and Evolutionist positions in consecutive sections. No reader with a wish for a brief scan is going to bother to keep the left index finger pointed to a piece of text, so as to scan ahead to find the opposing view. In fact, my POV is that too many contentious Wiki articles follow WP:ATM in the process obscuring the valuable resource of juxtaposed interpretations which provide the reader with the possibility to make their own conclusions as to relative merit. In my field of interest, a classic case of this is evidenced in Gaza_beach_explosion_(2006) an article whose current form, respecting WP:ATM I find to be sub-optimal and for which my alternative draft in 'Talk', arranged by subtopic, was rejected. In my view that served to obscure the detail of the relative credibility and hence the value of the respective HRW and IDF positions, something which I believe (yes, another POV) reduces the value of Wiki as a source of useful information.