Wikipedia talk:Call a spade a spade

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Dont call people spades.[edit]

Spade is often used as a racially discriminative term, based on the colour, both of the card and the sandcastle making device.

Also the picture on the project page appears to be a shovel. Just so you know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 14:28, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

To call a spade a spade (talk) 18:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

From the above: "The phrase predates the use of the word "spade" as an ethnic slur against African-Americans, which was not recorded until 1928; however, in contemporary U.S. society, the idiom is often avoided due to potential confusion with the slur.[1]" Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie, AKA TheArchaeologist Say Herro 14:44, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

Duck test irony[edit]

wasn't the duck test first used to justify a cia sponsored coup against an elected guatemalan government, by labeling it as communist, when it wasn't, it was just a bit leftist?--Mongreilf (talk) 14:09, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

I wrote the exact same exact thing somewhere else. Your correct Mongrelif. Like the saying "yelling fire in a burning building" the duck test has a violent, disturbing, and shameful history. travb (talk) 11:05, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
As I wrote on another page:
Everytime I see WP:DUCK quoted I strongly cringe, not only because of the violent history of the term (Duck test was used by the United States ambassador to Guatemala right before the CIA violently overthrew the democractically elected government, installing a military ditactorship and plunging the country into chaos and long-lasting political turbulence), but since there is no hard evidence, a lot of innocent people are surely wrongly accused. Ikip (talk) 11:19, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
The section reminded me of a cartoon--I believe it was in Penthouse. A duck is sitting in front of a psychiatrist's desk. He ponders, "It walks like a duck. It talks like a duck. But is it a duck?   :-D (talk) 18:03, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
It also makes me cringe also. Whenever WP:DUCK is used as a basis then I read - an editor/admin who likely makes continous errors based on unconvincing evidence in a subjective way. I'm surprised that no corresponding WP:DUCKMYTH article exists. SunCreator (talk) 02:06, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
That is because the article is too ambiguous. Sir William Matthew Flinders Petrie, AKA TheArchaeologist Say Herro 14:45, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

WP:DUCK / WP:Duck[edit]

Is it necessary to show the second shortcut in the shortcut box? WP:Duck is nice to have and I tend to type "wp:____" in lowercases anyways (shaves a few milliseconds off typing), but it looks out of place in that shortcut box. Maybe I'm being picky? :D – Kerαunoςcopiagalaxies 07:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Applicable to article writing or only behind-the-scenes discussions?[edit]

Does WP:SPADE apply to article writing, or only to interpersonal relations on discussion pages and notice boards? Does it take precedence over WP:NPOV? What about Wikipedia:Don't call a spade a spade and Wikipedia:Don't call the kettle black? Elizium23 (talk) 00:03, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

Good faith?[edit]

Isn't this article almost diametrically opposed to assuming good faith? — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:23, 26 November 2011 (UTC)