Wikipedia talk:List of English contractions

whomst'd've'ly'yaint'nt'ed'ies's'y'es'l — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.191.189.130 (talk) 16:25, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

If "don't" as "does not" and "willn't" as "will not" can be and are used and understood within a dialect (aka "grammatically correct" in that dialect), then why the statement "this is not grammatically correct"? 66.50.45.44 (User ) 18:10, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

• "Don't" is plural, so "They don't eat cake." However, "does not" in standard English contracts to "doesn't." Although there are dialects in which "he don't eat food" would be understood, it is non-standard English and thus grammatically incorrect. Geoking66_talk 16:36, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

at is" contracts to "at's" when one might say, "when what he's looking at's exactly what he was looking for." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:247:C202:7390:CC6C:B3:E01E:8EC9 (talk) 09:05, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Common/Proper Use

The page states to list "common" English contractions, and also makes notes about potentially incorrect or improper usage of a few terms. But several of the items are slang (ain't, gonna, gotta, 'sup, s'pose, wanna, y'all), archaic (e'er, ne'er, 'tis, 'twas), and arguably quite uncommon, especially in writing (amn't, couldn't've, hadn't've, hasn't've, de'dn't, hedn't've, he'd've, he'sn't, I'dn't, Idn't've, I'd've, I'ven't, it'dn't, it'dn't've, it'd've, itsn't, mightn't've, mustn't've, not've, oughtn't've, she'dn't, she'dn't've, she'd've, she'sn't, shouldn't've, somebody'd, somebody'dn't, somebody'd've, somebody'dn't've, someone'd, someone'dn't, someone'dn't've, someone'd've, something'd, something'dn't, something'dn't've, something'd've, there'dn't, there'dn't've, there'd've, they'dn't, they'dn't've, they'd've, they'd'ven't, they'll'ven't, they'ven't, we'd've, we'dn't, we'dn't've, we'lln't've, where've, who'd've, why'll, why're, won't've, wouldn't've, y’all’d’ve, y’all’dn’t’ve, y’all’ll, y’all’on’t, y’all’ll’ve, y'all're, y’all’ll’ven’t, you’d’ve, you’ren’t, you’ven’t). In fact, all of the uncommon ones were flagged by my spell checker and system dictionary, and only a few I've ever heard spoken (and never written).

The page should separate the items into common contractions, slang/regional/archaic, and uncommon/improper. People looking this stuff up "ought'nt've" to get a list of gibberish just because "someone'd" decide to combine all possible suffixes. 174.20.45.107 (talk) 01:10, 16 September 2016 (UTC)

Ain't

Why there is not "do not" and "does not" in ain't? You may say "I ain't like you" what means "I don't like you" 194.117.241.30 (User ) 14:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)

"I ain't like you" means "I am not like you" (i.e. not similar to you). It does not mean "I don't like you". 86.160.217.154 (talk) 03:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

"I ain't" can mean either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by B23Rich (talk • contribs) 03:13, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

Is there any actual situation in which "ain't" is used as "I do not"? Rak'sna'rath (talk) 17:14, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Shan't

Shan't is in both tables on this article. It should probably exist in only one.

Fixed.

Y'all'dn't've

Y'all'dn't've should be added to the list as meaning "you all would not have". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.221.225.45 (talk) 15:03, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

I think this one is BS. I live in an area where "y'all" isn't all that uncommon, and I've never heard anyone come anywhere near this. This discussion at Stack Exchange talks about this (referencing this very page), but I not that the page starts off with "This is a list of common contractions used in the English language." I don't really think it's anything remotely resembling common (and where would it be common? I'm curious) and I think it should probably be removed from this page. -- Erik Siers (talk) 03:20, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

- I can confirm it has some popular usage; I'm Australian and have heard it used often, including by myself. The context for it is generally something like: 'Y'all'dn't've seen my phone, would you?' or 'Y'all'dn't've been taught trigonometry yet; you're too young.' (Alright, the latter might be reaching; generally I hear it used in questions.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.105.127.226 (talk) 20:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

is 'dn't've only used with the pronoun y'all? --Backinstadiums (talk) 16:38, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

It's also used in wouldn't've (or should, could equivalents). As for whether y'all'dn't've is a real contraction, the closest thing I've heard to it is the slurring of "You wouldn't've" at the beginning of a sentence. I think y'all'dn't've would make no sense if spoken as it lacks the wou sound, and so ends up sounding like ya'll didn't've which is not a valid contraction. "Didn't have" works, but "didn't've" doesn't. Duey (talk) 04:39, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

I personally think that didn't've is valid. 69.92.7.220 (talk) 16:01, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Inclusion criteria

Should Mr and Mrs be in the list? If so, why not Dr, Cllr, Sgt, Col, Rev, Prof, Rt Hon? Why not Ltd, dept, Inc, govt? Why not any of dozens, maybe hundreds, of other similar abbreviations? Where would it end? I think the article needs a definition of what is considered a "contraction" for these purposes. 86.160.217.154 (talk) 03:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)

Some of those are abbreviations and some are contractions. According to this, Mr, Mrs, Dr, Cllr, and Sgt are contractions. Supposedly Rt Hon is both--right is contracted while honerable is abbreviated. Ltd would be a contraction, while dept, inc, and gov are abbreviations. It seems that this article defines an abbreviation as the combination of multiple words, usually with apostrophes (though not always, as in the case of gonna). Duey (talk) 22:06, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

The two main reasons for contractions are to make speaking quicker and to make writing quicker. Since changing "right" to "rt" only removes 3 characters, whilst changing "Honorable" to "Hon" removes 7, the correct course of action might be to classify "Honorable"=>"Hon" as a valid contraction, but "Right"=>"Rt" as invalid. If the precedent is set that a multi-purpose/multi-meaning word such as "right" could be contracted, this could have side effects such as using "rt" in cases of direction, or in the case of correctness.

The sentence "I don't think we should turn rt at the pass" should not be correct, and language such as this is usually only used in texting, which is recognised as being ungrammatical. Therefore, "Right Honorable" should be abbreviated as "Right Hon.". Rak'sna'rath (talk) 17:07, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Less formal contractions (e.g.: gonna, wanna, gimme)

Where are gonna, wanna, gimme, gotta, etc. In terms of frequency, a point can be made they're more common than, for example we'd've. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tsyrak (talk • contribs) 11:38, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Neutrality of Notes

The notes are very biased towards native speakers of prestige dialects of English. This should be fixed. 24.44.156.41 (talk) 06:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

Move to mainspace?

This page looks like an article - should it be moved to article namespace (and then categorized as an article) ? DexDor (talk) 06:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

common?

Are (or were?) contractions with 't- as 'twas = it was common? -91.63.231.2 (talk) 09:30, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

• 'twas is anachronistic, but I think easily common enough for inclusion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.156.66.10 (talk) 04:16, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

d'you've

A common contraction such as d'you've poses a lexicographic issue for traditional dictionaries.--Backinstadiums (talk) 16:22, 13 October 2018 (UTC)

I'duv, I would have

Oh, good. This is one of my favorite contractions and it is not listed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.164.12.170 (talk) 20:08, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

Nice one. I'd spell that I'd've , not I'duv. 122.58.206.152 (talk) 11:43, 22 June 2019 (UTC)

definitely I'd've. Taramalan (talk) 03:28, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

S'e / Ha'ta

We should get some citations for these. What are they from? "S'e" sounds maybe like "chyeah?" And "Ha'ta" sounds nothing like "even," so I'm not sure what's going on here. Is this a pigin word? It's not a contraction for "even" by even the loosest definition. Antigravity711 (talk) 09:11, 8 October 2019 (UTC)

I've removed them as inappropriate. --Kaledomo (talk) 09:38, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Protect or delete article

Reasons to either protect or delete:

• Protect - This article seems to invite a lot of vandalism and isn't really in need of constant legitimate edits.
• Delete - I'm pretty sure Wikipedia is not supposed to have exhaustive lists like these. Even if it's supposed to provide only examples, that won't stop attracting users from constantly adding items, creating churn.

Let me know if either of these proposals sounds off. --Kaledomo (talk) 15:00, 25 January 2020 (UTC)

Guidelines for creating contractions

What are the guidelines for contractions? Would such things as whomst'ven't'd'll be acceptable? 69.92.7.220 (talk) 17:24, 7 December 2020 (UTC)

whos gonna add Whomst'd've'ly'yaint'nt'ed'ies's'y'es again?

add it again please Ayen2022-3 (talk) 02:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

'd for "did"

The tables on the right list 'd as a contraction for "did" after personal pronouns and interrogative words (e.g. I'd, who'd). While I often see 'd used for "had" and "would", I've never seen it used for "did". Is this a valid contraction? MaigoAkisame (talk) 18:15, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

What about y'all'd'nt've'd'd'I'd'nt've'd'y'all't've'd?!

It means “You all would not have had had I had not have had you all to have had” — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.200.226.154 (talk) 05:39, 31 October 2024 (UTC)

y'all=/=contraction of y'all

in the "List of common (and not archaic) English contractions"- table/image, "y'all" is listed as ancontraction of "y'all". the redundancy is obvious. please someone change it to "you all". Taramalan (talk) 03:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

Can we add "I'm 'onna" or "I'm'na" to the list?

It seems to be a transitional form between "I'm gonna" and "I'ma" and it's often said. "I'm 'onna" is registered in Wiktionary and "I'm'na" is said too by many other english speakers as per this reddit post https://www.reddit.com/r/ENGLISH/comments/18eewd0/muna_as_an_abbreviation_of_im_gonna/ ...Actually, I'm just going to go ahead and add myself. I'm new to editing wikipedia pages, so if someone wants to take it out, they're more than welcome. Languagelover3000 (talk) 22:42, 8 February 2024 (UTC)

I'd'ven't'd

Contraction of "I would have not had" Only hypothetical, I've never heard it in practice 71.2.163.205 (talk) 21:39, 26 March 2024 (UTC)

a 2600:8805:271A:700:78A8:15B8:1F48:B83F (talk) 18:11, 26 August 2024 (UTC)

Change image into a table

I don't have the spoons to edit this page, but the main image should be easy to transform into tables, which can be separated into two sections between common and uncommon contractions. this is better for accessibility for who use screen readers to read the page or simply want to better read the image, as that's very grainy JPG. also note that these should use straight quotes rather than curvy quotes per MOS:". Juwan (talk) 19:02, 21 October 2024 (UTC)