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Renamed projects[edit]

Wikipedia:WikiProject New York has been renamed to Wikipedia:WikiProject New York (state) and everything moved accordingly. However the bot is now editing redirects. Where is the list it runs off to amend that? Timrollpickering 11:21, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

@Timrollpickering: - can you clarify with an example? I looked at a couple of article talk pages (including my home town!) and they seem OK. Is it still giving problems? Walkerma (talk) 04:12, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
It's been ignoring the redirect at User:WP 1.0 bot/Tables/Project/New York and hasn't updated Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/New York (state) articles by quality log for a while. Timrollpickering 10:45, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for clarification. I checked the bots edits and it shows Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/New_York_(state)_articles_by_quality_log was in fact just updated yesterday, and it includes an assessment change on Talk:FOIL request that I did recently. Also, the table is now being updated at User:WP_1.0_bot/Tables/Project/New_York_(state). (I suspect that the old pages simply remain there; the bot will no longer update them, though.) I notice that Wikipedia:WikiProject_New_York_(state)#Assessment has the current (active) table and a link to the assessment log. Does this mean the problem has been solved? Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 06:01, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Bug?[edit]

Check out Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team/Micronesia_articles_by_quality_log . Federated States of Micronesia , Palikir , Typhoon Chataan , and Women in the Federated States of Micronesia all bounce back and forth between "Unknown" and the actual rankings. There isn't some kind of eternal edit war on the talk page, either, it's the same static ranking. SnowFire (talk) 22:43, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

I notice that on the talk pages of those articles, the Micronesia template is listed twice - once with "Top importance" and once with "not assessed for importance." In addition, the categories show the article listed in both categories - as a result, the poor bot can't make up its mind! However, when you look at the wiki code, the template is only present once. I wonder if it's some quirk of your WikiProject template code that makes it different from others, or whether it's something else entirely - but I don't think I've seen this bug before! Walkerma (talk) 05:01, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Nice catch. And, not "my" Wikiproject, but... my suspicion is that "FSM" used to be its own Wikiproject, was folded into WP Micronesia as a sub-project, and some pages still have a separate FSM & Micronesia template for how the mess started. That said, ideally whoever runs the bot should create some sort of an "error, rating inconsistent, pls fix" state of course. SnowFire (talk) 10:11, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
I pointed out the issue here. Brad (talk) 16:16, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

Error: For "Update project data", importance col. "???" is not updating[edit]

Greetings, last week I posted a notice of this error at "WP:VPT" and there was no response. A couple days later, it seemed to be working okay so I let it go as perhaps a passing error. Now the error is happening again.

Details: project = Wikipedia:WikiProject Catholicism/Assessment. After running the "Update project data" for WP Catholicism, the numbers remain the same in that "???" column. Even though I updated the articles with "importance=" assessments.

Anything that can be done to fix would be great! Thanks, JoeHebda • (talk) 18:13, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I see 38 articles in Category:Unknown-importance_Catholicism_articles. Make sure to purge the assessment page to get the latest version. Easiest way to purge is a null edit; open page edit, change nothing, and save. Should purge. Brad (talk) 00:06, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Yes I have been doing the Purge (under Move, on toolbar) to clear the page cache. For example on WP Cath. Assessment page, for Stub articles it shows 13 before & after purge, even though all 13 articles have "importance=low". Wonder if the error could be with "Article lists" not picking up the correct value & throwing an incorrect result? This is totally beyond anything I know about so I may be just guessing. Or is the error with "Update project data"? All 13 articles are updated with "importance=low" & are still being reported into the "???" column. Hope this clarifies. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:55, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Today, I logged off & ran "Update project data" from IP address. It reduced the number of articles down to 4 articles remaining. Three of these are articles with non-Alpha-Numeric characters in the title. Category:Unknown-importance Catholicism articles is now empty since I completed assessment of all those articles. JoeHebda • (talk) 20:04, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
Again, I logged off & ran "Update project data" from IP address. It changed the number of articles, so I logged in & updated "importance=" on these, then re-ran the update. SAME PROBLEM = articles in "???" column remains unchanged. JoeHebda • (talk) 18:44, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
@JoeHebda:I see that it still hasn't cleared by itself - I had hoped it would. It's a curious bug! We don't have anyone working regularly on maintaining the bot, but we have someone who occasionally checks over things. Normally he only gets involved if the bot actually stops running altogether. I'll ask him about it when he is next working on it; we will be putting together a new article collection soon for WP:1, so we will need to look at the bot code again then. However, this seems so random, I'm not sure we'll be able to identify the problem! Walkerma (talk) 03:33, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Walkerma - Thanks for the update. Wondering if the same issue exists with other WikiProjects? So far this is the only one that I've seen. JoeHebda • (talk) 12:06, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Walkerma - Yes, something definitely is "off" in that "???" column as today the wikitable on "Stub" line shows a count of 2 articles, yet when I click on the wikilink, only 1 article shows. Regards, JoeHebda • (talk) 13:28, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Football/United States and Canada task force[edit]

I'm looking at the [Project index] for Wikiprojects and the table for the WikiProject Football/United States and Canada task force is not showing up, even though there is one on the page itself. I'm also not seeing the category page show up. Is there a way to fix this so that these appear? Jay eyem (talk) 17:34, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing this out. I suspect there may be problems with some others also, which means it could be a serious bug. We don't have anyone on full time maintenance of the bot, but I'll see if we can identify the problem and fix it. In the next couple of months we want to start preparing a new offline collection, and we'll need to make sure we don't exclude whole subject areas because of a bug like this! In the meantime, please let us know if anything changes. Thanks, Walkerma (talk) 03:36, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
@Jay eyem:, you'll find it in the Project Index under Soccer in the United States and Canada. The Project Index doesn't index task forces alphabetically with the parent project. They're usually indexed by the task force name; I was expecting to find the US football/soccer task force indexed under U for United States but found it under S for Soccer. Task forces are handled a inconsistently by tools and reports that are designed to function with independent WikiProject banners. Plantdrew (talk) 04:20, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
That is exactly what I wanted to know, thank you very much! Jay eyem (talk) 11:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Draft links[edit]

Hello. I noticed that drafts are incorrectly linked by the bot. An example: Special:Permalink/803852075#Assessed (for Draft:The Da Vinci System). These are now more common since the beginning of WP:ACTRIAL. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 01:41, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

It looks like the code was grabbing the list of namespace names from a database originally on toolserver, but that database likely predates the addition of the draft namespace. --Ahecht (TALK
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Bot adding double colons[edit]

@Theopolisme and Wolfgang42: The WP 1.0 bot seems to be causing lots of Multi-colon errors (wikilinks starting with two colons, such as the one inserted for Parq Vancouver here, are not longer being parsed by mediawiki). Can you add a function to the bot to filter out the extra colons before updating the templates? --Ahecht (TALK
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Ahecht: Yes, I was just about to ask for the same thing, and I add my voice to Ahecht asking that this be addressed. —Anomalocaris (talk) 04:21, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
This is related to my above-post too. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 04:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
Agreed. Most of these errors are caused by the program not knowing what to call the draft namespace and just leaving it blank. Unfortunately, Wolfgang42 and Theopolisme have been mostly inactive since 2015. --Ahecht (TALK
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Precisions[edit]

For precision, here are two diffs showing the bogus links: [1], [2]. Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 01:25, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

We seem to have a lot of these minor bugs at the moment - often relating to non-alphanumeric characters. I've asked for some help from someone who has looked at the code. Thanks for the reports, Walkerma (talk) 05:28, 12 October 2017 (UTC)