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Populating lists of pages[edit]

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As in, e.g., Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Lists of pages/Articles. You said it's done manually. Like, with pencil and paper? :o) Could you please elaborate? I've started this: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Academic_Journals/Lists_of_pages. Thanks! Fgnievinski (talk) 05:15, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've used this HTML: [1] and I could also have used the API: [2] but in any case, there's a limit of 500 counts, so it takes many continued pages to get the full listing. Then there was some text editing, for which I used vim. Fgnievinski (talk) 05:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I write those pages on a paper, and then add them to the page ;-). I meant to say: the list is created by manual actions, like: 0. Start WP:AWB 1. list the "Categories:Medicine articles by quality", 2. write then in a text-file with [[ ]] added, 3. then turn these talkpages into article pages, 4. Save those in a different file, 5. Then edit the target list page by adding those two external lists.

This could be done by a bot, but I have not found time to set that up and ask a bot-author.

You already got this, I see.

The 500 limit is on AWB-script not WP:AWB, right? I installed and used WP:AWB (an exe file that runs separate from this wiki on your computer). Last time, it did not have a 500 linmit. Good tro know: to compile lists, you don't need edit permission for AWB. You do need permission to edit using AWB (see the documentation pages). Will take a look at your new page. -DePiep (talk) 07:50, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have created {{Recent changes in Academic Journals}}, see your central page Wikipedia:WikiProject Academic Journals/Lists of pages. It's a handcrafted template (there is no meta-template for this yet). If you have any questions, tell me. -DePiep (talk) 09:55, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You might consider this setup for the various lists:

1. All articles + their talkpage (=content)

2. All non-articles + their talkpage (=support/help/template/...)

Note: My impression is that the maximum number of pages in one list page is ~30,000 (up to 1MB page size). Beyond that, the page will function but editing/updating it is very very slow (and possibly the simple RC clicking response too). For this reason, WP:Medicine (with 30000 articles) was split up. Your WP:AJ has 14,000 pages, so even doubling them (talk+subject) could be in one page (28,000 P). Limiting to Articles+talk only would reduce that number of course. -DePiep (talk) 10:04, 15 July 2015 (UTC) Fgnievinski -DePiep (talk) 10:07, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for taking the time to share your tips! I might try AWB if fellow editors at WPJournals find the listing useful. I'll move this using discussion over to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Academic Journals/Lists of pages. Thanks once again. Fgnievinski (talk) 16:28, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fgnievinski unless you oppose I will change the set as proposed:

1. Articles + their talks

2. Non-articles + their talks

IMO the majority of editors who do follow edits, are interested in content edits. Only specialised editors (liek you or me) want to follow non-article subject edits (like templates, WP:AJ pages, etc).

Also, adding the talkpages 1:1 makes sense because when one is interested in edits of an article, why then not look at the preliminary/posterior talks about it? -DePiep (talk) 18:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done See current version. btw, what a Great project WP:AJ is! Keep it up. Any remarks? -DePiep (talk) 22:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Makes total sense! I was going to grep my text files to do that, but I noticed it's already up -- thanks once again! Fgnievinski (talk) 22:35, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK then! Now let's spreed the message of {{Recent changes in Academic Journals}} asap. I'd like to see it used by more regular WP:AJ editors. From here, getting more editors involved is good (regular list updates is another issue ;-) ). -DePiep (talk) 22:50, 15 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]