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- 1 Ahmadiyya
- 2 Wiki Loves Pride
- 3 Request for comment
- 4 Talk:Jonathan Edwards (theologian)#Requested move 22 August 2016
- 5 Serious problem of WP:COI users editing articles about religion statistics
- 6 One of your project's articles has been selected for improvement!
- 7 Category 21st-century mosques
- 8 "Veneration"
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A discussion and vote as to whether Jonathan Edwards (theologian) should become the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of the Jonathan Edwards disambiguation page is ongoing at the above link. —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 18:22, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Articles such as:
Are in a horrible state. First of all I put a question mark on the utility of such articles. They should be merged into "major religious groups". They seem to be primarily meant as platforms of propaganda by certain religious ideologies. They are mostly contructed through unreliable and biased sources, such as tabloid articles and Christian literature, and I make reference especially to the sections about Christianity recently reviewed by user Jobas.
- Moreover, inspecting some of the reliable sources used (I mean the non-biased academic ones), I have found that they do not contain what is reported in the article!
- Update: I hope Jobas won't revert again the tags pointing to unreliablity, COI and bias that I have added to the articles.--18.104.22.168 (talk) 16:09, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
- Update: I have also discovered that user Jobas was already blocked back in 2007 for adding false information:
- 17:38, 6 July 2007 Georgewilliamherbert (talk | contribs) blocked Jobas (talk | contribs) with an expiration time of 72 hours (account creation blocked) (Inserting false information: also sock User: 22.214.171.124)--126.96.36.199 (talk) 16:14, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
- Most of the sources of these articles are from Pew Research Center, several national Census, Eurobarometer, The Guardian, Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor, BBC News, UNHCR, World Christian Encyclopedia, Arena - Atlas of Religions and Nationalities in Russia, reuters, Without addressing the references from books etec. The last time i checked these references they were not from "Christian literature" or been called as part of the "Christian propaganda". And I'm not the only - as you try to show- one who revert your edit, User:Bbb23 edit your edit in the article Growth of religion and left attention in your talk page, Oh it is totally irrelevant to bring up blocking me from 2007 (9 years ago!).
- The artilce Christianity by country for exmaple is quite exist as Islam by country and Buddhism by country, I don't see you go there asking to "delet it".--Jobas (talk) 17:47, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
- First of all. You declare to be an Arab Christian and on your personal pages you make your faith / religious ideology very evident, with Christian phrases and imagery. You have been engaged for a long time in pushing your views about the demographics of Christians, most of the time using unreliable sources and ignoring good sources. Given this, you have a huge WP:COI in writing those articles.
- Regarding the list of source agencies you have provided: The Guardian; the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights and Values; BBC News; UNHCR; World Christian Encyclopedia; & Reuters are not good sources and should not be used in Wikipedia. They are journalism and tabloids with a certain political bias, and besides this "journalism" is not (or no longer) academic: they make the readers believe what they want, they don't base their claims on academic sources and don't need to do so, and many of their articles are fabricated lies. The World Christian Encyclopedia is a biased source by the same name it uses. All the other sources you have listed are worthy to be used.--188.8.131.52 (talk) 15:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- Wow really? So for you being Christian mean i can't edit in articles related with Christianity and Christians?. Is this also applies to the Muslim editors of Islam-related articles? Or atheist Editors who edits in atheism related articles?
- The source that you mention before are widely used in the wikipeida, Most of Statistics in the articles are from Pew study and several national Census, and from Eurobarometer, Many of the previous sources that you described as "not good" are in fact - if you even tried to read it - Review statistics from the Pew study and several national Census, and by the way World Christian Encyclopedia is a reference work published by Oxford University Press, And its widely used in dozens of articles here - and two of these articles are use this source only in two sentences-.--Jobas (talk) 17:33, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- I have not said that you can't write because you're a Christian, I have said that you have demonstrated to have a conflict of interest in the way you edit and in the unfair use you make of sources. It is not true that the agencies that I have mentioned as not good and not reliable base their claims on national censuses, eurobarometer, and pew study. Most of them are tabloid articles.--184.108.40.206 (talk) 23:12, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
- I am still waiting for the intervention of a third party, possibly an administrator, to solve this issue and purify those articles.--220.127.116.11 (talk) 23:14, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
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