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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Williamborg (talk | contribs) at 00:20, 6 March 2006. The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

Hi,

Your comments (signed of course) are welcome here. To retain a record of my past immature responses and the results of debates, I've also put talk older material on User talk:Williamborg/archive. Work in progress can be found at User talk:Williamborg/sandbox & User talk:Williamborg/terms. Candor & honesty are welcome, at least up to a point.


I'm going to add galleries on my user page to keep track of uploads to wikipedia. Probably I'm going to add images there before they are added anywhere else. Agtfjott 07:03, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Photostuff

Cleaned up some stuff on Commons:Category:Norway. Slowly I get to the point where it is possible to figure out what photos exist and which are missing. Those I moved around are now sorted on muncipality if known and possible, then I tried to streamline sorting on function. Sort of. Hopefully nothing is missing but I did find some pictures in categories far from where they should hav been. Agtfjott 23:03, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Region?

We need to review the terms used for various types of regions of Norway, esp. the current erroneous term "landscape", but also landsdel and tettsted. See for instance Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Norway#.22Landscape.22. -- Egil 16:10, 11 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. Would appreciate if you’d take the lead on proposing the approach. I’m of a rather retiring personality who finds some of the debates one must go through in the group dynamics of a Wiki sap my energy. It has taken me a while just to come back to Wiki – and I need to focus on making some contributions in uncontroversial areas for a while. Thanks! Williamborg 21:46, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Nice job done by Egil! Since this is history, I'm moving it to there on the 24th. Williamborg 03:05, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Page Blanking

On 24-Jan, you blanked Sogndalen. Blanking pages is generally considered a bad idea. In cases of creating an article under a misspelling, it's better to redirect the misspelling to the correct article. You are probably not the only one who will make that spelling mistake. I've redirected this article to Songdalen. Thanks! -- JLaTondre 01:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Agree. More extensive response at JLaTondre's page. Williamborg 03:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I provided a link to the directions in my first post. They are at Wikipedia:Redirect. If you still have questions, let me know. -- JLaTondre 13:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Yep, you did. Thanks! Williamborg

Norweigan county maps

Thank you for the kind comments on the maps. I am doing a major project at work - drilling down each country to the 1st, 2nd, even 3rd administrative level, and updating a huge database (english names, local names, the works). When I got to the Wiki section on Norway, I noticed that there were so many counties without maps as a guide, so I wanted to help contribute to the articles. I appreciate all of the comments - and I will strive to improve the coastline detail (mine came from a database that was not quite focused on detail) and the alpha ordering in the future (I noticed how Norweigans actually alphabetize the Ø and å characters differently, so I want to improve the maps so the lists are in Norge alpha-order). I am open for doing district maps - the big thing will be the need for source data for me to use, no matter what language (as long as I can decipher the borders). Rarelibra 00:37 27JAN2006

You're quite welcome for the kind comment; it was sincere. Since the Wikipedia is a voluntary thing, I appreciate the work of folks like you who concentrate on improving basic information. And as a visual person, I really value maps.
As a possible aid for your effort, I would recommend the German site at German map of Aust-Agder or Veiatlas Norge as possible sources. From the German site you can transfer to other counties of Norway as well. Or if you can’t get access, I’d be happy to print as a pdf & email to your. And if you’d like to post DRAFT versions on your talk page, I’m sure several of our active Norway contributors would be happy to review and comment. Williamborg 22:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]


Renaming districts

It's entirely possible that I haven't paid attention, but can you point me to the discussion about using the indefinite form for such places as Gudbrandsdalen? --Leifern 22:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

No, I'm guilty of "going off half-cocked". Added a section titled Gudbrandsdal or Gudbrandsdalen to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Norway. In summary, I suggest we simply use the form on the Districts of Norway page to document our consensus usage. But, as always, i'm willing to be convinced it there is a better solution. Williamborg 02:21, 30 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Fjord

Thanks. It just seemed to be getting unwieldy. By the way, I'm not sure I agree with how glacial origin is optional in your revision of our definition of fjord. I will try to prompt some discussion of this on the article's talk page. -- Avenue 10:38, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Noted. I'll discuss on the fjord talk page. Williamborg 13:54, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]


A long time ago...

The right Vang church
The wrong Vang church

..we discussed the Vang church. And I told you I was sure it was the wrong Vang church? The right one is on the left side and the correct is on the right side. Uh.. The one on the right is whats left of my brain.. — John Erling Blad (no) 23:39, 23 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Probably why sailors use port and starboard.
Rather an interesting right church to port (although not as interesting in architecture as the 'wrong' one to starboard). Do we know when it was built and whether is has an interesting history? Williamborg 03:22, 24 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Subpages

I noticed you have User_talk:Williamborg-1 and User_talk:Williamborg-2. This isn't the proper way to create subpages - those are the user pages for the (presumably non-existent) accounts User:Williamborg-1 and User:Williamborg-2. Subpages of your userspace would be something like User:Williamborg/subpage or User talk:Williamborg/archive. These are part of your user space and connect with it. You should move your subpages back into your own user space (click on the [move] button at the top of the page) and then tag the old pages for speedy deletion - otherwise someone registering User:Williamborg-1 might be very confused ;)

If you need any help or clarification, please feel free to ask me for help. Guettarda 18:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Excellent. Now I understand how it is done. Thanks - Williamborg 14:09, 3 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

History of Jämtland

You have edited the text on Jamtlandic such that it now says:

"Jämtland was originally settled by fugitives from Trøndelag after Harald Fairhair united Norway in the 9th century, became part of Norway during the reign of Haakon I in the 10th century and remained part of Norway until the 17th century."
(Claimed source: Gjerset, Knut (1915). History of the Norwegian People, Volumes I & II, The MacMillan Company.)

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't history say that king Sverrir conquered Jämtland in 1178? How can he have conquered Jämtland if it already was a part of Norway? No, Jämtland had been an independent nation ever since 9th century when the trönds colonised the area, though being allied with Norway or Sweden at different periods throughout Viking age depending on what they found most appropriate.

BTW, I'll completely re-write the article on Jamtlandic so there's no point in adding stuff. I'll probably remove the history part completely, since it is quite likely that the theory of a tröndish migration to Jämtland is not very relevant (the migration probably consisted of some few households setling near people who they were acquainted with since generations), though the connection to Tröndelag is important.

Jens Persson jepe2503 [at] hotmail [dot] com (130.242.128.85 19:28, 4 March 2006 (UTC))[reply]

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