Talk:Commune (intentional community)

• Well, I've tried to improve this a bit by amending it rather than undoing stuff. Sorry that the formatting is still imperfect. I look forward to further improvements by grammar experts, layouters and communards.--PhilBerger (talk) 20:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey y'all this article is reallllly messed up, its not NPOV and it goes off talking about some swedish woman.... wrong formatting, etc etc etc etc!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.8.208.145 (talk) 03:53, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

• I think it would be good to compare a commune to say, a fraternity/sorority/ILG in college. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.243.2.30 (talk) 18:13, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Maybe an idea is to pop in somehting about the good old Paris Commune here. It ain't all sweet music and roses. Brhh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ericbritton (talk • contribs) 07:55, 29 December 2005

I thought Wikipedia was supposed to be the best online encyclopedia out there! Is this all you guys know about communes? Help me find an intentional community in or around Rhode Island. -Kristen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.48.175 (talk • contribs) 23:09, 13 February 2006

Dear Kristen, I think that you have missed the point of an encyclopedia.

See Paris Commune, which is linked from the Commune disambiguation page. Kristen, while I agree this page needs more information, Wikipedia is not a directory, and you shouldn't expect to find listings of intentional communities here. -David Schaich ^Talk/_Cont 15:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

References to the Paris Commune should be removed as the term 'commune' in french refers the municipal level of government. In this case the word 'commune' is a false friend. This would also apply to section on the 'Marxist Commune'.

Marx especifically used the term "commune" in "The Civil War in France." Also the Paris Commune is widely recognized as the official name of the popular regime that controlled the city of Paris during that time. Therefore commune is applicable here. Although Lenin would later mention that the word cannot be used in Russian, and that "community" would be an adequate replacement. (Demigod Ron 03:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC))

I do not dispute that it is the official name. Only, when we are discussing the Paris Commune, and, likewise when Marx talks about communes in his Civil war in France, the word commune designates the municipal level of government. The Paris Commune was not an intentional community. There is no sense in discussing the revolutionary regime of the Paris Municipality (commune) in an article on intentional communities. Thus, I think that references to the Paris Commune and to Marx should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.65.58.42 (talk) 03:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I concur that the word "commune" in the sense of "intentional community", which is what this article is about, is an entirely different animal from the Paris Commune (which in fact was not invented in 1871, but was carried over from the French Revolution of the previous century, and before); as such, the "Marxist Commune" should be deleted here. I might be bold and do it myself later; for now, I satisfied myself with deleting the word "tainted" from the intro paragraph, as it's a POV word (not everyone thinks the hippie communes of the 1960s were a bad thing...). --Davecampbell 18:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

The section has now got its own article, Commune (Marxism). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Father Inire (talk • contribs) 07:25, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Marxist Commune

While some of you dispute that the Marxist perception of the commune is not an intentional community. This could not be further from the truth. There is nothing more intentional than a newly built mode of governance to replace the old bourgeois parliaments. Of course it could be argued that Marx simply used the term "commune" because that's exactly what the communads called it, but that actually just validates that the information I placed here belongs here. Furthermore with the removal of information relating to the Paris Commune, this article has become all about the hippie concept of the commune. This mean's it shows the reader a third of the information they expect. Anyone would expect to see a detailed analysis of the Marxist concept of the commune (although my analysis was not quite detailed yet) another detailed analysis the anararchist concept of the commune, and at least a mention of the Paris commune itself. (Demigod Ron 00:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC))

Removed misleading paragraph about other intentional communities

I deleted the following paragraph:

"A commune is one of many types of intentional communities or planned communities. There are several different types of intentional communities. An ecovillage focuses on creating a community that is completely environmentally friendly and recycle as much as possible. A co-housing community is where several individuals or families reside in a large house and share a community kitchen and living room area. In a commune, the residents share financial resources to keep the community's economy alive as they are privately funded by the members. A co-op is usually a bit more expensive and are found more frequently in urban areas. There are also communities that are created based on shared interests, such as painting, or religions such as Paganism or Christianity."

None of this information is about communes, and instead is about intentional communities in general. In addition, it implies that an ecovillage, cohousing and co-ops are communes, while in fact cohousing and co-ops are not, and ecovillages aren't always. For that matter, co-ops aren't always even intentional communities, and instead just a legal arrangement. The description of cohousing is also flat-out wrong, since cohousing residents do not share a large house. This paragraph added nothing of value to someone wanting to learn about communes, and adds inaccuracies and confusion.

A short statement about what an intentional community is would be justified, but it should not describe other types, as this would be off-topic.

Normally I would have just have suggesting removing it here on the talk page, but the significant inaccuracies I feel justified "being bold"

71.212.17.238 (talk) 04:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Israel

Hi! I added some of my knowledge about communes in israel. Actually there is much more to write about it. Because of my bad English (I am Israeli), it might be not very well written. You are invited to improve the wording. --מיתרפ (talk) 19:19, 30 March 2009 (UTC)