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Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2017[edit]

the date that the club was founded is wrong, it should be 7th of june 79.180.212.203 (talk) 17:06, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 17:21, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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A.S. Roma's colours have ALWAYS been 'orange-maroon'...[edit]

The bit where you say that Roma's kit changed to 'orange-maroon' due to modern marketing is completely wrong... What we mean for 'purple red' here in Rome is exactly what you call 'maroon', a lighter shade though... what we mean for 'gold' is exactly what you call 'orange' or 'amber', light orange... Roma's kits have been such for decades... it's not about 'modern marketing' at all... we're nicknamend 'yellow-reds' for simplicistic reasons, the press never dared coin the term 'orange-maroon', so it went that way, but our kit has seldom been really yellow and red... it happened in the late '80s, we wore dark red and yellow... our kits before then had always been maroon and light orange... and they reverted to 'orange-maroon' immediately in the '90s... next season we'll be wearing yellow-red again, I don't think our supporters will love it, though. It's a bit like Motherwell or Bradford City, their kits are so similar to ours. How would you call them? Amber-maroon? Amber-claret? That's Roma. It has always been, and when we say we're yellow-reds we do mean that light orange-maroon combination... Please, change that bit where you say it's due to modern marketing, it is not, it has never been this way...

Gianmaria.framarin 04:32, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, something's changed according to the club itself: http://www.asroma.com/en/news/2017/6/roma-officially-return-to-traditional-club-colours and a comparison: http://en.calcioefinanza.com/2017/03/20/roma-alter-home-kit-colours-201718/ TGB13 (talk) 17:12, 12 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]
It means nothing, sincerely speaking. Translate what they say... I know what they're saying... they're telling you they're reverting to 'the traditional home colours'... I'm sorry, but Roma's traditional kits have never been red and yellow, check out the Italian Wikipedia page about AS Roma, it's stated clearly. Roma's kits have always been traditionally 'purple red' (the 'maroon' you talk about) and 'gold' (the 'orange' or 'dark yellow' you talk about). On the Italian Wikipedia they say that Roma used LIGHTER SHADES OF RED AND YELLOW only between 1984 and 1992 and from the next season on... the new kit is, in fact, ordinary yellow and ordinary red... if Nike or a statement by A.S. Roma both claim they're reverting to 'traditional colours', I'm sorry, they're not telling any truth.

Why don't you check out Roma's traditional kits yourself? Take a look at those from the '70s and most of all those from the early '80s and from the '90s on... you'll clearly see what I'm talking about. It's NOT 'modern marketing'. Why do you accept Motherwell is 'amber and claret' and do not accept Roma is NOT 'yellow and red'? Look, mate, if I had the chance to edit the whole page, I'd do it at once, but they won't let me in... I don't think that letting this page say what it says is any good commentary on reality, I'm sorry. Gianmaria.framarin 22:40, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatasaray_S.K._(football) This page is highly explicatory: Galatasaray reverted to purple red and gold (the colours of the Roman Empire btw) recently, A.S. Roma has almost always worn those colours, so why don't you recognise it? Why is it good for Galatasaray or Motherwell or Bradford City and not for Roma??? Gianmaria.framarin 02:12, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Really don't care about other team's colours to be honest. Unless you can provide a good reference, not just another Wikipedia article, that supports your opinion then we're going to struggle. If Roma themselves are saying the colours have and are changing, and your defence is another Wikipedia page, then you need to find something more reliable. I'm not arguing and don't necessarily disagree with you, I just think it's clear the colours have changed over the years and this needs reflecting in the article. TGB13 (talk) 19:17, 17 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's why Wikipedia won't ever be working properly: people here do NOT want to check the truth with their own eyes and thus stick to BOLLOCKS some club directory impose on others, maybe someone like you. Can't you simply understand they're doing it for marketing purposes??? Yet you don't want to take a look at all the kits Roma has worn all over the last decades, that means you and the truth = two strangers. Come over to Italy and ask which colours Roma bears... they'll of course tell you 'yellow and red', adding 'well, it's more like amber and claret, honestly', because ROME'S HISTORICAL CLOURS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN ORO E PORPORA, not "yellow and red". Translate it, can't you? It's not 'gold and purple', purple in English speaking countries is closer to violet... it's definitely AMBER AND CLARET, still you won't get to have a look with your own eyes and stick to this TEMPORARY kit change (it will last no longer than other two seasons, we'll check out). As a 'Wikipedian' you should search for what is true, not what big clubs would want you to believe in. Otherwise, okay, let's even dare say what the telly says is all true... or let's say we'd better stick to what politicians state, even if they're lying and THERE'S PLENTY OF PROOFS ABOUT THIS. I told you where the proofs can be found: take a look at any Roma kit in the last three decades. You won't do it, it's your FAULT. By the way, what's this then? http://www.savile-rogue.com/italy-serie-a-serie-b-c355/roma-c158/savile-rogue-claret-and-amber-minibar-cashmere-football-scarf-in-the-colours-of-a-s-roma-p2381 The rest of the world knows Roma usually wears amber and claret, you'll stick to whatever reason and keep your eyes closed. I'm off now, there's no serious discussion with anyone like you. Gianmaria.framarin 00:35, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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The colors of the AS Roma logo was changed on the 25th of July, 2016. It went back to the colors of Rome, red and yellow. Official source

The current logo can be found here.

I hope someone can change it, I'm new to Wikipedia and is seemingly unable to edit the page.

Thank you in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sylvictus (talk • contribs) 12:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ultras violence with weapons[edit]

Apparently it seems that the repeated potentially fatal violence by Roma ultras using various offensive and dangerous weapons is not allowed to be mentioned in the subheading. Not sure why. (Limhey (talk) 10:51, 29 April 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Without convolution of the title, "Violence" should suffice. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 11:47, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Ilikeeatingwaffles: Thanks for cutting down the long violence section after substantial edits by User:Limhey. I've been touching up his grammar and overlinking, and fixing his bare refs, but knew it was much too long at the main club page, and was trying to think of ways to cut it down. Your version, with simply stating the events by team and year, and keeping the major details, seems like a good version. Regards, Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 12:22, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect I cannot thank you for these sweeping amendments/deletions. "Touching up his grammar" is unnecessarily patronising and controlling. This is a serious prolonged and unanswered problem which deserves lengthy detail especially on the English language page. The astonishing number of stabbings deserves highlighting not sanitising. Please feel free to add the no doubt substantial detail about violence upon Italians. I feel the repeated deletions of my contribution is looking like wilful vandalism.(Limhey (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2018 (UTC))[reply]

Generally, having that much detail about this topic on the club's main page is going overboard. Maybe ask at WT:FOOTY for a project opinion on whether this much detail is needed. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 19:08, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Again with respect, who decides what is too much detail? Who determines what is going overboard? Surely more detail is desirable in an 'encyclopedia'. This is not a brief note book - the more cited information the better surely? Nobody is forced to read it. Why do you have the right to make this decision? I see you have posted on my talk page an edit war notice. Seems a bit one-sided that you can slash my contribution and sanitise this article with apparent impunity? (Limhey (talk) 19:22, 8 May 2018 (UTC))[reply]

I didn’t even notice there was already a discussion posed by someone a few days ago at the project page where they seem to think it is excessive as well. Vaselineeeeeeee★★★ 20:03, 8 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yep so it seems. A very small number displaying the same apparent bias towards minimising and diluting the amount of useful information regarding this historic, chronic unresolved blight on the game in Italy. This is tantamount to enablement. Does nationality/national loyalty come into the equation? The section is now near to pointless in its lack of important cited detail. The large total number of stabbings are now hidden. Is that what you meant by excessive? (Limhey (talk) 20:57, 8 May 2018 (UTC))[reply]

An important thing that was missing in the section as I saw it was context. Yes, there have been a significant number of incidents in which Roma fans have committed serious acts of violence on supporters of English clubs. What is not clear is, is this a phenomenon specific to English clubs? There is very little discussion of violence against other Italian fans, despite one being killed (this is, though, briefly noted). In addition, Wikipedia is not the place to cover every single instance of football-related violence for each club on the club's article. This is placing excessive weight on one aspect of issues surrounding the club. I do not dispute that Roma has an extremely serious problem here, the section as it was seemed to place too much prominence on a very specific subject. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 22:20, 9 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Vice Coach Salvatore Foti, Effective Jan 2022[edit]

Please change the Vice Coach from Joao Sacramento to Salvatore Foti. [1] 162.230.205.66 (talk) 01:00, 29 March 2022 (UTC) Fútbol Fan de las Américas[reply]

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:34, 29 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Feehely, Alan. "Jose Mourinho Loses His Right-Hand Man Joao Sacramento At Roma". Football Espana. Retrieved 29 March 2022.

Updating First few paragraphs and the As a Company section (FFP)[edit]

16 World Cup winners played for Roma, including Paulo Dybala (2022).

Likewise, the Stadio della Roma that is referenced in the opening few paragraphs (the club plans to move to a new stadium ...) is out of date.

Finally, the club entered a new FFP settlement regime this past summer. 2600:4040:2540:E00:4C61:7338:EFC9:3748 (talk) 00:59, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another fun stat to include about World Cup -- Roma is the only club to have winners from 9 different world cups who played for them at the time. 2600:4040:2540:E00:F851:C7EA:87D4:75B3 (talk) 19:36, 19 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2024[edit]

José Mourinho's time as manager has ended in 2024, and his managerial record should hence be updated to 2021-2024 Terkeskester (talk) 08:52, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This has already been updated. Govvy (talk) 09:32, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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