Talk:Baal Berith

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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Berith was copied or moved into Baal Berith with this edit on 01:52, 23 December 2010. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Text and/or other creative content from this version of Berith (god) was copied or moved into Baal Berith with this edit on 22:05, 21 September 2015. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

Merging[edit]

Oh, sure, why not? Ian.thomson (talk) 15:28, 21 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. N3philim (talk) 01:55, 23 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

? —

Llywelyn II

11:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now documented the {{copied}} template above. Wbm1058 (talk) 20:24, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! —

Llywelyn II

23:20, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Promotion[edit]

Hello. I am part of an organization called "Berith Christian Fellowship". I understand "Berith" is the Hebrew word for blood covenant, or to cut where blood flows. Could you add an article that has this additional reference to Berith. Thanks. 71.146.26.38 (talk) 16:27, 1 June 2011 (UTC)Corwin J. Stone, Oakland, CA.[reply]

New stuff goes at the bottom. Wikipedia does not promote any organization, and will only discuss organizations that meet the notability guidelines (which can be read here). Ian.thomson (talk) 16:49, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate deity?[edit]

Isn't this the same deity as Berith (god)? The exact same Biblical verses are used. If so, I'd suggest merging the pages. --Eddyspeeder (talk) 08:54, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Merge here. "Berith" isn't the name of the god: it's an epithet describing "Baal" or "El". —

Llywelyn II

11:36, 17 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done – Wbm1058 (talk) 22:37, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Primary topic for Berith[edit]

Hi, LlywelynII. I'm afraid I don't really understand your rationale from your edit summary. I merged the articles, as proposed above.

See Berith (disambiguation). What do you think a reader searching "Berith" is most likely looking for? Are you saying that there is no clear WP:primary topic for that title, and they are at least nearly just as likely to be looking for Berith Melin? This seems like a WP:TWODAB situation, that could almost be handled with a hatnote. Surely the historic house Berith Park doesn't merit consideration, as a partial title match. Wbm1058 (talk) 23:06, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

My edit summary was perfectly clear. Berith is "covenant" and Hebrew placenames that include it; it is not the same topic (WP:SCOPE) as "Lord of the Covenant" at all. This is not the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC of that name and it should point at the disambiguation page. Google searches for "Berith -Wikipedia" will return some results for this demon (It's part of his name) but just as many for discussion of the Hebrew word and the Biblical conception of covenant. It's not the primarytopic by any stretch. If there's a hatnote solution, it belongs on Covenant (biblical), not here.

Similarly, the dab page was perfectly clear, and your WP:POVPUSHing by editing Baal Berith as though it were the primarytopic and removal of the actual primary meaning of the word are both... well, inappropriate. Kindly stop doing things like that.

To clarify, yes, you did a good thing merging the content of the original article. Thanks! But it was always the wrong name and its namespace shouldn't point primarily to the god/demon at all. —

Llywelyn II

23:16, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but the dab page wasn't all that clear to me, until your recent edit that added Berith mila, which does make it clear that there are other uses and topics for "Berith". I'm agnostic about this; I don't have any POV about this topic, which frankly, I know little more about than what I'm reading on Wikipedia. I just want to tie the pieces together, so they connect in a logical way. Thanks for helping to do that. Wbm1058 (talk) 23:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

So berith, wikt:brit and wikt:bris are all alternate transliterations of the Hebrew word for covenant? Wbm1058 (talk) 23:42, 21 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

LlywelynII, I merged the history and moved the dab. I think this is now configured about the way you wanted it. Let me know if there are still any problems around this, that need admin help to fix. Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 00:37, 22 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]