Talk:Early Insular Christianity

Redirect?

Maybe this should be a redirect or a dab page? It essentially reproduces material on Celtic Christianity (including its decline and transition to the Roman rite). dab (𒁳) 15:26, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Could be added/redirected to Insular period? Johnbod 13:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

The first one was right. "Insular Christianity" simply never refers to the English church during this period, which initially aimed for Roman practice. Of the first page of Google Books results, none is talking about anything except Celtic Christianity; of the first page of Scholar results, only one is talking about anything except Celtic Christianity—and it's a work on the English Reformation using insular in a loose sense so it can include Ireland in the area it's discussing as distinct from Rome. This page—particularly with the adjective "early"—is a (wrong) WP:POVFORK that's blocking the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. — LlywelynII 14:02, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

Interlace sculpture

I've moved external link on interlace sculpture to Celtic Art [1]. JNW 13:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Probably better, also added to Insular Art [2]. JNW 13:25, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

'British Isles' historically incorrect

The British Isles weren't British at this time. I rarely use the word "imperialism" as a pejorative (a nasty habit that allows one to avoid thinking, in my view), but this is definitely a usage of British imperialism. The ancient Romans, for instance, distinguished between Britannia and Hibernia and did not treat the two islands as somehow inevitably linked or as a single entity, either culturally or ethnically. The term does not apply in the period before British rule in Ireland, and does not apply after Irish independence. It is particularly misleading in an article pertaining to the history of early medieval Christianity. Cynwolfe (talk) 15:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Whoa, there. You can argue about "imperialism" all you like with your friends. Here, come back and try this again after you've successfully shown that the geographical entry at "British Isles" is wrong and the COMMON ENGLISH usage of the term is exclusive of Ireland. (You're not going to win. Ireland is the only real reason to involve an "isles" in the name at all and the term's had that meaning for the entirety of its existence. The OED has your back, though, and notes that it's "depreciated" in the Republic of Ireland.)

There's a problem with this article, but the WP:LIE is that "Insular Christianity" refers to the Anglo-Saxons (it doesn't) not that the "British Isles" involves Ireland. — LlywelynII 14:02, 7 February 2015 (UTC)