Talk:Felipe Neri

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Did you know... that Felipe Neri, a deaf Zapatista general, constructed explosives out of salmon cans and earned the nickname mochaorejas (clipper of ears) by cutting off ears of his prisoners and deserters?

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Re: db - Yeah, hold on, I'm working on another article that is related to this, Amador Salazar, and as part of expanding it I stubbed this. I was planning on coming back here once the other one is in reasonable shape. I thought the Spanish wiki link would be sufficient for notability, but here's also some sources:

pg. 185 "... other members of the ruling council were ... Felipe Neri"

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and there's more... the guy was one of the main generals of the Mexican Revolution. Clearly notable.radek (talk) 06:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, I'll remove the tag. 98.248.32.44 (talk) 06:42, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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I've pointed out at Template talk:Did you know that if he's generally known in English as Felipe Neri (which is now a redirect to a different person, Philip Neri aka Filippo de Neri, to which a disambiguation hatline to Felipe Neri's article has been added), as he's referred to in both this hook and as "Neri" in the article, then I'd say that under Wikipedia:Naming conventions, that should be the article's name. Now that this You'd probably still use Felipe Neri Jiménez in the intro. In any case, you also need to add sort keys, or the magic word {{DEFAULTSORT:}} with appropriate sort key.

Since this article has already been created under the current name rather than starting it by taking over the existing redirect, any change should be done by an admin, which can be requested at WP:Requested moves. Gene Nygaard (talk) 10:22, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hope changing the redirect can fix this and is sufficient here.radek (talk) 11:24, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That change of redirect makes sense, accompanied with the hatline disambiguation on this page. But Brunk, McLynn, and Krause, the three sources cited here, all refer to him as Felipe Neri as far as I can see by clicking on the links provided.

So not only do I not see any evidence that "Felipe Neri Jiménez" rather than "Felipe Neri" would be the appropriate name of the Wikipedia article in accordance with Wikipedia:Naming conventions, I don't even see any evidence justifying the inclusion of the Jiménez name in the introduction. Gene Nygaard (talk) 15:48, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, there is also a problem with the color of this Felipe Neri Jimenez (as long as that color remains red) link even if you can show some justification for including the Jiménez name, and category sort keys still need to be added. Gene Nygaard (talk) 15:54, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

On this I was just following the Spanish Wiki. Please move/redirect appropriately.radek (talk) 19:16, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]