Talk:Fudge

Mackinac Island fudge advertisement?

Why is this entire article about Mackinac Island fudge? The image captions are "Gourmet Turtle Fudge from the Mackinac Fudge Shop" "Making Mackinac Island Fudge" and half of the "American fudge" section is devoted to Mackinac island. I don't think it is appropriate for "Mackinac Fudge Shop" to advertise on this page, so someone should edit this.

Headline text below the index?

Is the headline text supposed to be below the index, or what? It looks quite odd, in my opinion. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.61.168.192 (talk) 14:05, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Fudge has to be sexy?

Mongo! Punkgoddess 04:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requested moves

(moved from WP:RM -- ALoan (Talk) 18:39, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC))

• Fudge (candy) → Fudge -- Fudge was previously a disambiguation page, but the other two meanings were trivial in comparison. Historie Pete 13:56, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
• Done - deleted fudge and moved Fudge (candy). Pace the policy argument below, sweet/candy is clearly the most common meaning. -- ALoan (Talk) 15:49, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Word origin

This sounds a lot like a folk etymology to me: The exact origin is disputed, but most stories claim that the first batch of fudge resulted from a bungled batch of caramels made on February 14,1886—hence the name "fudge." jengod 19:13, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)

It does, doesn't it? The OED has "origin obscure", and suggests "The noun] appears to have been developed partly from the interjection, and partly from FUDGE verb." -- Dominus 20:23, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Maybe so, but even as but a myth, I still think it belongs in the article.

"S.C"-----Sorry this has nothing to do with fudge exep that it can be made with nuts or vinilla flavoring, did you know that, well try it sometime.-----Congrats S you have made it this far ok your next clue is...'Go to Selena's page and read my post.'

"usually flavoured with chocolate"

I have to say, I very VERY rarely see chocolate fudge. Maybe it's an England/America difference, but almost all fudge here is vanilla, and then the second most common is probably banana (then strawberry, THEN probably chocolate). I'm going to edit that bit out completely, if it really is that common in America, someone can feel free to stick in a new sentance. --Oppolo 00:20, 24 September 2005 (UTC)

Fudge in America is usually chocolate. DCR

I informally polled some Britons I know to ask if they thought chcocolate fudge was rare, and if almost all fudge in Englad was vanilla; they were unanimous in their disagreement. This isn't dispositive, but it does indicate that the situation is not as clear as you seem to think.

I have emailed the owners of [1] to ask for more specific information about what flavors of fudge are popular in Kent. I will report back here if they reply. -- Dominus 14:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Last night at Disneyland, at the confectionary at Downtown Disney, I purchased Pumpkin, Bubblegum (flavored, with small marshmallows for texture), chocolate mint, peanut butter chocolate, chocolate, and vanilla fudge MikeSims 22:10, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Chocolate? Pumpkin? Vanilla? Wow! The fudge I remember is a sort of salty flavour. Maybe just an Irish thing then. Temp 19:26, 18 April 2007

This page is a redirect for Mackinac Island Fudge. There is a wide viriaty there from vanilla, chocolate, peanutbutter, chocolate peanutbutter, maple, cranberry, mint, rockyroad ect.. Some include diffrent nutts, candy and sugar free fudge. Because of the amount of diffrent venders in such a small location there is a wide variaty of flavors and styles, some even sell oven baked fudge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.26.236.94 (talk) 11:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Plain Fudge in the UK is typically expected to be vanilla flavoured - although contrary to the claim above, chocolate is probably the next most common; typically you will see: vanilla; chocolate; coffee; clotted cream (in westcountry - claimed to be origin); variations on walnuts; mint; orange ; rum & raisin; cherry; strawberry ; other fruits/nuts/alcohols / flavours etc —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.248.134 (talk) 20:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

"Indeed, Chocolate."

I do believe the difference is England/US. Chocolate fudge is the norm here, so much so that I've actually never seen any other flavor. I'll not enter it, however, as I have no idea what flavors other regions use.

In Australia Fudge is generally Chocolate, Coffee or Caramel flavoured, but offhand I'd say we had around five to ten common flavours, as well as combinations (eg chocolate / caramel swirls). I don't think you can talk about any particular flavour of fudge being dominant, but a list of common / popular flavours would surely be alright.

I think this sounds like a great section of the article to me. "Default Fudge Flavors around the World." Chocolate is definitely the default fudge flavor at least in Michigan (including Mackinac Island), USA. However, a great many flavors are possible here. It's just that "Fudge" = "Chocolate Fudge" and "XXX Fudge" = "XXX Fudge" where XXX is the flavor with XXX not equal to chocolate.Dachande 15:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

In UK that's what I know under the name "Fudge", or this (and this sounds too yummy to be true) otherwise is called "Chocolate Fudge" and than is made with chocolate/cocoa. But I definitely support the proposition "Default Fudge Flavors around the World." :0) --Dia^ (talk) 17:28, 19 August 2010 (UTC)

"Slang"

Slang Within Australia, the US, and the UK a 'fudge packer' is an offensive slang term for a homosexual, referring to the act of anal sex.

is this really appropriate? not every page of an encyclopedia should make sure to list how the subject can be used as a sexual reference. im gonna remove it. Sahuagin 07:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. -- Dominus 10:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Would you then consider it appropriate for wikitionary?

Gross!!! This article is about food!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.126.75.181 (talk) 17:07, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Ya leave that sorta stuff for urban dictonary(78.16.55.110 (talk) 22:36, 23 January 2008 (UTC))

wouldnt it be best that the public...idk didnt know abou that term.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.235.205 (talk) 19:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Devon & Cornwall?

The paragraph about Devon & Cornwall read like an advertisement. However I only commented it out instead of deleting it since I am not from the UK. Can any Brits comment on the notability of the company? ShortBus 09:12, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Devon & Cornwal are not a company. They are two counties. Fudge from devon and cornwall is quite famous in the UK. The company is however not particularily notable and it reads very much as an advertisement. I have removed it. Ksbrown 17:41, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Naturally i have no reference for this, otherwise i would have added it, but common understanding in the UK is that fudge is simply a type of sweetened condensed cream. In the UK, it is generally associated with the dairy-producing Westcountry (Devon & Cornwall) the origin seems very likely to be a historical development of (overcooked) clotted cream. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.248.134 (talk) 21:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Smith College Fudge Recipe- 1914

The following is from a 1914 cookbook of the Emmanuel Church Lady's Aid Society, Norwich NY, contributed by Mrs. Burton E. Reynolds.

Smith College Fudge

Melt 1/4 cup butter, mix in separate dish: 1 cup white sugar, 1 cup brown sugar, 1/4 cup molasses, 1/2 cup sweet cream

Add this to the butter and boil 2 1/2 minutes, stirring rapidly, then add 2 squares of chocolate scraped fine. Boil all five minutes, stirring rapidly, then more slowly as it thickens. Add 1 1/2 teaspoons vanilla and 1 1/2 cups English walnuts, cut into small pieces. Turn into buttered tin to cool.

(My own notes to this: Use unsweetened baking chocolate, about 2 oz. Cook in a double boiler, like an old fashioned chafing dish.)Saxophobia 02:02, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

difference?

What is the difference between fudge and chocolate, such as hersheys????? 209.180.111.176 01:48, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Some difference in ingredients but the biggest difference is in the cooking- the characteristic of fudge is the texture. Proper fudge is not gooey (unless made as a sauce) but it does not break like chocolate. Saxophobia (talk) 17:02, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

This article needs protection

I don't know how to semi=protect a page. If another editor who watches this page know how to do it, please do. The article is vandalized almost dialy with scatalogical nonsenseLiPollis 19:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Only an administrator can protect or semi-protect an article. Read the protection policy for more details.—Elipongo (Talk|contribs) 17:01, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Ingredients...

Working in a fudge shop, I can tell you that most slab fudge contains cream as oppossed to butter. Also, the temperature varies fron 230-239 degreed farenheit. Bit of a technicality, I know.

The creation story is also correct. She got the temperature wrong but created this wonderful sweet!

stange changes

for some strange reason last time i check this article i think i saw alot more details.......how do i check if im right or wrong? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.235.205 (talk) 01:31, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

vandalism

this topic is being chenged unneedingly for the wrong reason constantly! this has to stop! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.235.205 (talk) 01:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

more details

this article should have things like differen types of fudge, different countries where fudge is made, and other stuff like that —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.229.235.205 (talk) 21:02, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Not a Candy?

In this article, it explicitly states that fudge is not a candy, but on the candy page, it lists fudge as a candy here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Candy#Manufacture76.254.22.112 (talk) 22:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I removed the nonsense "not a candy" phrase added by 74.78.224.218 -Mtekk (talk) 03:33, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I just wasn't sure :p AlanZhan (talk) 21:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Fudge is a confection.Bigturtle (talk) 00:53, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

In general use the terns Candy and Confection mean the same thing. Saxophobia (talk) 17:04, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Not only in general usage, but also in technical usage, fudge is a candy. In cooking jargon, candy is a confection made by boiling sugar. Fudge is an example. —Dominus (talk) 20:23, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

Picture

Shouldn't this be changed to something more resembling traditional fudge? Seems unlikely someone is going to go to the fudge page and not expect a picture of fudge. Sheepdean (talk) 23:01, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Proportions of sugar, butter, and milk?

I want to make a totally basic fudge using sugar, butter, and milk, with no flavoring. But I can't seem to find the proper proportions anywhere. Anybody here have a halfway decent, ballpark idea of what the basic proportions of these ingredients is? Mbarbier (talk) 18:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

"hot fudge" Redirect

Typing "hot fudge" into the search bar takes you to this page but typing "Hot Fudge" (in proper-case) takes you to Hot Fudge. This makes is quite hard to actually reach Hot Fudge since the only difference in the case used. Is the redirect really suitable? I'm pretty new to this so I don't know how to go about fixing this. 2401cs (talk) 17:58, 10 September 2011 (UTC)