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"Baghdad" Jim

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I'm going to revert the addition of "Baghdad" to Mcdermott's name in the article lead. The name there should be his legal name, or the name he goes by, like "Jim". The origins and relevance of the "Baghdad" bit are mentioned in the body of the article. (Yes, most reasonable people would see the addition of "Baghdad" as simple vandalism, but in case someone might somehow construe this as a content dispute, I want to get my position laid out here.) CDC (talk) 18:40, 3 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Controversies

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I've made an effort to improve the neutrality of the "Controversies" section. The original version was written in a biased voice. 24.19.233.237 17:19, 21 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Why isn't there any mention of Jim McDermott's position on other issues, such as abortion? Other members of Congress have had their positions on abortion explored in exhaustive detail in their Wikipedia articles. Dino 16:12, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This article does not speak of Congressman McDermott's accomplishments. It merely reads like a skeletal autobiography and a hit piece. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HowiePoodle (talk • contribs) 06:04, 26 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Will someone please find a citation for his Irish ancestry

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Someone has removed the category indicating that he is an Irish-American politician with the odd claim that he could be Scottish. I know McDermott, and he's about as Scottish as a pint of Guinness. But I don't offhand have a citation. Does someone else? - Jmabel | Talk 17:43, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did a Google search. Any reason not to accept this - containing the sentence "McDermott's Irish eyes light up" - from the Seattle Times Pacific Northwest Magazine? - Jmabel | Talk 17:57, 26 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
For that matter, his annual fundraiser is a "potato feed" on the weekend nearest St. Patrick's Day, under the name "Celebrating our Roots". On the page promoting it this year he refer to "my own Irish heritage", which I presume should be solid, and which I will cite. - Jmabel | Talk 19:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The citations are a mess

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I cited solidly for "Baghdad Jim" nickname, but in general the citations in this article are a mess, and could really use some cleanup. - Jmabel | Talk 20:03, 10 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The section headings are also messy. See WP:HEAD. Scartol • Tok 15:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion in process

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I'm doing a major re-write of this article. I will be replacing some of the questionable sources with WP:RS-compliant sources.HowiePoodle 19:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is not an article about legislation

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This is an article about a living person. It is not appropriate to go into undue detail about any particular piece of legislation except in the rare case that such legislation defines or caps a career (such as, perhaps, McCain-Feingold). As of yet, the subject of this article has no such defining legislation. If an editor wishes to write at length about a particular law, that properly goes into the separate article for that law, especially since Congressional legislation typically have multiple sponsors, authors, supports, opponents and critics. rewinn (talk) 21:48, 12 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Before I started editing, the legislative history in this article looked like it was written by his campaign staff with 100% POSITIVE results. If only laws really turned out that way. Including the actual results and the actual costs of every Congressmen's "major legislation" should be the norm, because over time the actual results and the real costs are more important than the stated intentions of the lawmakers when they get things passed. Those are due details.

I continue to chip away at this in an effort to get closer to the Wikiproject template:

  • Lead
  • Early life/upbringing
  • Early career (pre-politics or local politics, including other elected offices)
  • Political Campaigns
    • Summary
    • Most recent campaign
    • Current Campaign (if any)
    • Contributor Profile
  • U.S. Representative career (or other office)
    • Current Committee Assignments
    • Past Committee Assignments, especially chairmanships or leadership positions
    • Caucus Memberships
    • Major Legislation (if any)
    • Controversies (if any)
  • U.S. Senate career (etc.)
    • Same layout as above
  • Political Views (which should include at least 3 good quotes)
  • Post-Congressional career or legacy (if any)
  • Personal life
  • Electoral history (table format)
  • Works (if any)
  • See also
  • References
  • External Links

Senor Island (talk) 22:40, 13 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your helpful edits. However, this is a biography and edits must conform to relevant standards. This is not the place to blog about whether legislation is good or bad. A short statment about each peice of legislation may be appropriate, including a brief sentence about criticism and advocacy. However, it is never appropriate to put more text in about a single bill than there is about the person's education, for example. If you want an article talking at length about at bill, that may well be a good article and you should write it. Please adhere to standards for biographical articles. You may wish to consult with more experienced editors. rewinn (talk) 00:46, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Knighthood undue weight

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A knighthood from a small country is not of sufficient weight to go into the lede. The obvious intent of the editor who re-inserted it, looking at all that editor's work, is to insert material critical of the subject of this article. That is not necessarily bad, but must be done according to WP:NPOV. Please adhere to standards for biographies of living persons. A edit war will do no good. rewinn (talk) 00:50, 14 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Bull, Leaving out his knighthood is some kind of political ommision. It is a big part of his life and it shall remain on the record because it is a part of his biograpghy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.247.104.253 (talk) 21:12, 31 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Caucuses

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As I understand it, McDermott belongs to about 70 caucuses; we list four. Any idea why these four are singled out? Progressive Caucus is clearly important, but kidneys as against (for example) Armenia or Historic Preservation seems an odd prioritization in our article. - Jmabel | Talk 05:09, 15 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Only caucuses important enough to have their own wikipedia page should be listed. That is an objective standard and is related to noteworthiness. rewinn (talk) 05:29, 31 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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