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Misrepresentation[edit]

Some of the details here are misrepresented. I am a student and have first hand experience. This article is guilty of misrepresentation. The college's 'claims' are not all fullfilled to the extent this article purports. I am a student and have first-hand experience.

actually there was some biased content but i think its fair enough now.--Brainmasterrohit (talk) 18:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)ThE bmr[reply]

I certainly understand that you being a student have first-hand experience, but please try to understand that original research is not appropriate on Wikipedia. If citations are provided from reliable sources, then it helps towards the growth of the article. For now, I've seen the article been glossed with heaps of praise by certain over-zealous editors. That certainly doesn't help when there are no reliable sources. It is indeed very difficult for this article to do away with the WP:NPOV, WP:PEACOCK and WP:ADVERT tags unless the involved editors work towards making this more encyclopedic. Mspraveen (talk) 08:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have tried to add as many citations as possible and some of the portions of this article without adequate references have been removed. Can the WP:NPOV, WP:PEACOCK and WP:ADVERT tags be removed now? If not do tell, what more editing is required herein? Shyam.champ (talk) 21:27, 1 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: I formatted it slightly [1]. Original comments [2] and [3].--DreamLinker (talk) 08:45, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Paragraph requied[edit]

Can someone write a paragraph on KIIT at Institutions of national importance in Orissa under Section 2, "Private Institutions?"? Thanks. SDas 03:55, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair use rationale for Image:Kiit logo.gif[edit]

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I cann't find anything that inappropriate[edit]

Please try to be a little more assertive, i have seen that there were a few inappropriate things and have tried to manage them, but nothing seems to be as inappropriate as the comments show.

Brainmasterrohit (talk) 04:41, 18 August 2008 (UTC) brainmasterrohit[reply]

WP:INDIA Banner/Orissa Addition[edit]

Note: {{WP India}} Project Banner with Orissa workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under Category:Orissa or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag TALK2ME 07:20, 3 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is KIIT University not just KIIT[edit]

This article deals with the KIIT university as a whole and its constituent schools. What this article doesn't deals with?

  • only Engineering school or Management School or other schools. Every School can have their separate articles, already exist:

KIIT School of Technology, KIIT School of Management, KIIT Law School. Detailed information pertaining to the schools can go to the sub-articles rather than sections.

  • This article doesn't deals with the other institutes under KIIT Group of Institutions. Those institutes can have their separate articles.

I would request the editors to make sure that the article follow the Wikipedia norms and making sure that the article doesn't represent only a single school. Amartyabag TALK2ME 08:59, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was moved -- Aervanath (talk) 03:36, 13 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology University → KIIT University — The university is more popularly known by its acronym. This is according to WP:COMMONAME. The university commonly uses its acronym without dots in between, this is according to WP:ABBR. — Amartyabag TALK2ME 08:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Search on Google reveals:

KIIT University - 73,900 results [4] Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology University -18,600 results [5]

Survey[edit]

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Support. Institute logo shows KIIT University.--GDibyendu (talk) 08:35, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Hindi name[edit]

  • Its Hindi name reads कलिंग इंस्टिच्यूट ऑफ इंडस्टियल टेक्नोलाजी, Kaliṃga Iṃsţicyūţ ŏph Iṃḍasţiyal Ţēknōlājī, with the "r" in "Industrial" omitted. Google search for कलिंग इंस्टिच्यूट found only forms without this R. Is this correct, or is it descended from an old typo by repeated copy-and-pasting? With this R restored, the Hindi name becomes कलिंग इंस्टिच्यूट ऑफ इंडस्ट्रियल टेक्नोलाजी Kaliṃga Iṃsţicyūţ ŏph Iṃḍasţriyal Ţēknōlājī. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 06:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

lateral entry[edit]

wat's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the procedure???????????????????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.156.5.19 (talk) 16:54, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 7 December 2017[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. Since this now has unanimous support there is no need to drag this out. (closed by page mover) Bradv 20:37, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

KIIT University → Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology – The institute was renamed back to its former name, following the UGC directive.[1] It is evident from the institutes website[2] And specifically its logo[3] that the renaming actually took place. Therefore, the article should be moved. Muhandes (talk) 07:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC) --Relisting. SkyWarrior 17:38, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Additional evidence that the name "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology" is commonly used by secondary sources is provided below. --Muhandes (talk) 19:52, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. KIIT University should be moved to Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology, as the Institute has changed its name to its original name (Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology) following the UGC directives. Thank you Sumitsharaf (talk) 07:34, 7 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – the university uses the full name for the institution. CookieMonster755 𝚨-𝛀 01:28, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but suggest relisting. The nominator's rationale is incorrect, a change of official name is not grounds for renaming the article, and the source cited is a primary source in any case. Similarly, the Support !votes above provide no valid arguments for changing the article title. There may be some. But we do not yet have them. Andrewa (talk) 11:50, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Let me rephrase the request in legalise. The name should be changed to "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology" since it was always one of the common names used, especially by secondary sources, and when the official name also changed, there is no reason not to prefer it over other names. Since the name was officially changed no sooner than, and most likely exactly on, 30 November 2017,[4][5] secondary sources after the change are few. However, even before the change, "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology" was very commonly used. National Institutional Ranking Framework has always used "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[6] QS World University Rankings uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology (KIIT) University".[7] Kalinga TV uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology" on the first mention, and only after introducing the full, common name, it uses an abbreviation "KIIT University". The Telegraph uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology (KIIT) University".[8] Pragativadi uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[9] NDTV uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[10] Telangana Today uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[11] The Indian Express uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[12] The Economic Times uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[13] Times Now uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[14] Mumbai Mirror uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology".[15] The Times of India uses Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology (KIIT) university.[16] Business Standard uses "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology (KIIT) University".[17]
So to summarize, even if the changing of the official name in itself is not a valid reason, secondary sources show the name "Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology" is at least as widely used as "KIIT University", and the changing of the official name may just be the reason to look more deeply into this. Add to this the fact that involved editors have no objection, as shown by the other !votes. --Muhandes (talk) 13:42, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

Buried in the proposer's expanded argument above is a valid argument for moving, and even evidence supporting this. Thank you!

Wade through it if you wish. There's no legalise that I can see, but the first paragraph is padded with several more invalid arguments, and as far as I can see nothing relevant at all is said in the second paragraph despite the to summarize intro (at least as is not the issue but wp:NAMECHANGES is, and nor is the fact that I'm not involved, etc).

But in the first paragraph there is also evidence that the longer version is the common name (and always was). That's all we need. Let us move on. Andrewa (talk) 19:58, 14 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Don't use 'university' in institute names, UGC directs deemed-to-be varsities". The Indian Express. 15 November 2017. Retrieved 1 December 2017.
  2. ^ "KIIT | Kalinga Institute of Industrial Technology Bhubaneswar". kiit.ac.in. Retrieved 7 December 2017.
  3. ^ "KIIT logo". Retrieved 7 December 2017.
  4. ^ "As UGC cracks the whip, many drop 'university' from name - Times of India". The Times of India. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  5. ^ "Deadline on deemed tag". The Telegraph. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  6. ^ "National Institutional Ranking Framework 2017 (Overall)". National Institutional Ranking Framework. Ministry of Human Resource Development. 2017.
  7. ^ "QS BRICS University Rankings 2018". QS Quacquarelli Symonds Limited. 2017. Retrieved 2 December 2017.
  8. ^ "BRICS rank feather on KIIT crown". The Telegraph. 26 November 2017. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  9. ^ "Dr Achyuta Samanta receives National Award for Child Welfare". pragativadi.com. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  10. ^ "Kalinga Institute Of Social Sciences Declared Deemed University". NDTV.com. {{cite web}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Missing or empty |url= (help)
  11. ^ "AICTE chairman calls for revamp of curriculum". Telangana Today. 20 November 2017. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  12. ^ "KIIT founder threatened by Maoists". The Indian Express. 10 June 2017. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  13. ^ Mohanty, Meera (23 March 2017). "NGT asks Odisha to restore forest area being used by KIIT students". The Economic Times. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  14. ^ "Introduce Humanities and Social Sciences in Engineering courses: AICTE Chairman". TimesNow. 24 November 2017. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  15. ^ "Mumbai look for first win - Mumbai Mirror -". Mumbai Mirror. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  16. ^ "Magnetic outpost gets investigation power". The Times of India. 1 November 2017. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
  17. ^ Babu, Gireesh (12 June 2016). "Kalinga Institute of Social Science to set up branches in 10 states". Business Standard India. Retrieved 14 December 2017.
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