Talk:Machines of Loving Grace

This article must adhere to the biographies of living persons (BLP) policy, even if it is not a biography, because it contains material about living persons. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately from the article and its talk page, especially if potentially libellous. If such material is repeatedly inserted, or if you have other concerns, please report the issue to this noticeboard.

If you are a subject of this article, or acting on behalf of one, and you need help, please see this help page.

Biography: Musicians Stub‑class

	Biography portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Biography, a collaborative effort to create, develop and organize Wikipedia's articles about people. All interested editors are invited to join the project and contribute to the discussion. For instructions on how to use this banner, please refer to the documentation.BiographyWikipedia:WikiProject BiographyTemplate:WikiProject Biographybiography articles
Stub	This article has been given a rating which conflicts with the project-independent quality rating in the banner shell. Please resolve this conflict if possible.
	This article is supported by WikiProject Musicians.

Industrial Mid‑importance

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Industrial, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Industrial music on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.IndustrialWikipedia:WikiProject IndustrialTemplate:WikiProject IndustrialIndustrial music articles

Mid

This article has been rated as Mid-importance on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Industrial To-do:

Top priority articles to improve to Good article status

Front 242
Front Line Assembly
Ministry
Skinny Puppy
Throbbing Gristle – needs "Musical style" and "Critical reception" sections
Wax Trax! Records

High priority articles to improve to B-Class status

Mid priority articles to improve to C-Class status

United States: Arizona Low‑importance

	United States portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject United States, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of topics relating to the United States of America on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the ongoing discussions. Template Usage Articles Requested! Become a Member Project Talk Alerts United StatesWikipedia:WikiProject United StatesTemplate:WikiProject United StatesUnited States articles
Low	This article has been rated as Low-importance on the project's importance scale.
	Arizona portal This article is supported by WikiProject Arizona (assessed as Low-importance).

Untitled[edit]

Could find no references to The Machines actually existing after the Disney/Mammoth blowout in 2000. If anyone can find a source for the statement that references the band being back together in 2005, that'd be great.

--Identityshift 02:58, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I found the info on the children of Sores site. It's listed in the "Machines Album News Summary" section in the middle right of the page. Unfortunately, there are no dates listed, so it's hard to tell when the claim was made, but IIRC it was last year. I hope that's good enough. -Freekee 02:03, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately ....[edit]

That news was posted there on the site just a few short months before the 06/10/2000 news that The Machines were breaking up. In March of 2004 I emailed the COS site admin to ask for an update, and it seems pretty clear that the band will never get back together, nor will the final album see the light of day. I have the email saved somewhere, I can find it as a source.

Sorry, man, not trying to B your Bs at all. I was just hopeful that maybe you had some inside info that even the COS site admin didn't.

--Identityshift 06:24, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay. Clearly, I'd misinterpreted info that I'd read. Can that last paragraph be changed to In 2005, Benzel reformed...? Or is it completely wrong. Feel free to fix the article in any way you see fit. I thought it strange that the COS site seemed to think my article was strange, even though I took the info from their own site. :-/ -Freekee 15:50, 19 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think I fixed it. Are there any issues with the current wording? Feel free to edit it, if you feel it's necessary. -Freekee 04:21, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

BAD LINK[edit]

Why does a pro wrestling team redirect here? They have the same name but that's the only connection. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Albano (link in teams he has manegd)

It shouldn't. I changed it. You could have done the same. Thanks for pointing it out, though. -Freekee 06:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Page rename[edit]

Since the name of the band was changed from Machines of Loving Grace to The Machines after the band had essentially broken up, and all of their records were released under their original name, I propose that the page be renamed to Machines of Loving Grace. Does anyone disagree? Or agree, for that matter? -Freekee 05:35, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think that's a great idea. People looking for info on them will be finding them through soundtracks, compilations, or old copies of their cds, like many of us did back in the day. Therefore, they won't know to just look for 'The Machines.' --Identityshift 22:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've completed the page move, per the request at WP:RM, and discussion here. Cheers. -GTBacchus^(talk) 18:19, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Reference[edit]

I'm not sure if I added that reference correctly, please feel free to edit. Children of Sores is as close to an official website the band ever had, and the news is right from Scott Benzel, so I'm pretty sure it meets the criteria.

--Identityshift (talk) 22:25, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]