Talk:Mark Zuckerberg

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Philanthropy[edit]

Unfortunately there seems to be an unusual level of noise on this talk page...

Nevertheless, I want to raise an issue with Zuckerberg being called a philanthropist. All this basically means in his case is that he gives some money to charities, and considering the amount, may also dictate some structure as to the way that money is handled. Ergo, almost every very wealthy person's bio on wiki describes them as a philanthropist.

Does wiki consider it NPOV to describe almost every billionaire on the planet as a philanthropist?

This is clearly not NPOV, and even quite sinister. Wiki should not have an implicit neo-liberal POV.

For instance, if billionaires faced the kind of taxes that the Rockerfellers or Mellon faced, would they still be "philanthropists"? Apart from Bill Gates and a few others, this is not clearly the case. (Even with Gates there are major questions regarding possible corporate bias of e.g. One Foundation, as per relevant wiki pages.)

I am removing philanthropist from his description. I am relabeling the Philanthropy section 'Charitable Works'. The purpose of wiki is not to aggrandize the very wealthy simply for donating relatively small amounts of money to charity.

Clearly these changes need to be made across the board. But I'll start with this bio.

Edit - the article is locked. Please open up discussion here vis a vis making these changes. I will join if necessary to open up discussions on a wider policy. I am firmly of the opinion that the purpose of wiki bios should not be to suck up to the wealthy by calling them all philanthropists simply for making relatively small donations to charity (I think most people donate to charity, and have less left over afterwards than these people - ergo the donations are small). It is not NPOV, it is distasteful, and for a non-profit organization like wikipedia it is quite frankly pathetic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.255.66.157 (talkcontribs)

It could definitely be removed from his description in lead, but Wikipedia standards allow "Philanthropy" sections/subsections as an NPOV feature. Snuggums (talk / edits) 00:51, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

The first point is good to hear, and I think fair. Regarding the second, that's very problematic, since the sum effect of these sections is clearly not, in my opinion, NPOV. For instance, if wiki standards allowed a specific 'Oppression of the Proletariat' section or a specific section for 'Corporate Tax Avoidance' for every relevant bio (beyond criticisms and controversies), it would clearly not be NPOV, and I for one am glad that wiki standards do not allow it, assuming they don't. But the pervading rhetoric of "philanthropy" is every bit as politically and ideologically loaded. I'll try to take this up with wiki standards. Otherwise we should allow a range of other sections/subsections as standard, such as the ones I mentioned.

Again, wiki, as a non-profit org, should not have flawed standards which condemn it to becoming a PR mouthpiece for the world's wealthy - they can manage that quite well already themselves.

Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2014[edit]

Please correct his religion in infobox, he is not jew, he is atheist. 182.187.31.48 (talk) 17:13, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done, not sure why it was changed from atheist. SNUGGUMS (talk · contribs) 17:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2014[edit]

"Zuckerberg's mother has Bulgarian ancestry. He was named after her father, Marco, who emigrated from Bulgaria during the 1940s."

This part of his biography must be deleted for there is absolutely no real proof of it. It is based on a quote from a made-up article in TV India. The online edition has based it's information on a false, satiric materials, published in Bulgaria for 1st of April (April fools day).

Alexmakedonski (talk) 14:15, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

@Alexmakedonski: Can you provide any source for the April Fool's joke? Trying to verify this, I tend to agree with your assessment, but a source to the original April Fool's would put the topic to rest. -- ferret (talk) 16:35, 4 September 2014 (UTC)


In my opinion that's pure bullshit and made up. Stilgar (talk) 09:51, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Is Zuckerberg's grandfather really a Bulgarian immigrant?[edit]

The validity of this claim is disputable. I tried to find the original source, but failed. The cited source is a "10 facts about Zuckerberg that you didn't know", which doesn't have enough credibility for me. Can we remove this line until further information is available? Glamdring (talk) 09:32, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2014[edit]

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Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: No request actually made. -- WV 05:25, 12 October 2014 (UTC)