Talk:Oregon–Washington football rivalry

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Stop deleting the update[edit]

It’s factually untrue too deny that the last two games in the series were marred by fake injury scandals.

revisionist history whoever tried to delete the update to the unmentioned games as the series has gone on. 50.34.38.225 (talk) 21:57, 15 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is not written properly, it's far from neutral, and it's not formatted according to our guidelines. Stop it already. Drmies (talk) 16:59, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Congrats on the blacklist to continue your Oregon revisionist history 50.34.38.225 (talk) 17:14, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The injury scandals are highly documented. You blacklisted me when the other authors keep vandalizing my original writing that’s backed up and factual 50.34.38.225 (talk) 17:15, 16 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
no University, nor large publication, nor coaching facility has spoken about the 'scandal' at all. 2 (possible) infringements have happened countless times in football history, and recensy bias shouldn't effect the page in total. The paragraph was also obviously biased, as there was no equal argument on the side of Oregon. Char3290 (talk) 02:13, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Cascade Clash?[edit]

NOTE: I am transferring the discussion below from my talk page (where it does not belong, as I have not been involved).—Myasuda (talk) 02:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What's up with adding the reference to the name Cascade Clash to Wikipedia page for the history of the rivalry between UW and Oregon? ESPN was pushing that name when they broadcast the game on Saturday, but as a fan of the Huskies for many years I have never heard anyone use this name for the rivalry and I haven't been able to find anyone else who has either. I also haven't found anyone who likes the name. Do you have any documentation that this name for the rivalry is one that has been popular over the years?

Thanks,

James Rapson JamRap (talk) 12:25, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't add the name Cascade Clash to the article. If you had done some simple research, you would have noticed that that name had been added in the October 12, 2023 edit by Char3290 (talk · contribs). Go bother him instead of me. —Myasuda (talk) 12:42, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Apologies - I'm completely new and obviously misunderstood what I saw. JamRap (talk) 14:30, 19 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Its a name used simply by fans to represent the historic rivalry between, the two sides, like saying 'the Civil War' instead of 'the Oregon-Oregon State Football Rivalry'. Char3290 (talk) 21:12, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"The Civil War" and "The Apple Cup" are famous rivalry names that have been widely used by virtually everyone for many decades. "The Cascade Clash" is about as far from being in the same category with those names as possible. I've been a Husky fan for 40 years and despite being passionate about the rivalry with Oregon I had never heard of the "Cascade Clash" until the announcers on ESPN used it on air a few weeks ago. I did a search and found it in this Wikipedia page, then saw that you had recently added it. I also discovered that it was one of a number of names that people had tried to give to the rivalry over the years, along with The Border War and a few others. A Google search for "Cascade Clash" gave more responses for a fencing tournament than for the Oregon-Washington rivalry.

Bottom line, it seems insufficient to keep it in solely because it's one of the names used by fans. Putting it here uses the weight of Wikipedia to grant the name a false level of validity that it simply has not earned in its flimsy history. JamRap (talk) 23:25, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've been a fan of the ducks almost my entire life. I've met plenty of UW and UO fans, and collectively we refer to it as the Border War. The term 'Cascade Clash' was added was because some IP user added it prior to this football season. I revised his edit to make it grammatically correct, thus it falls under my name. If you have a disdain for the name then you can take it out, I wouldn't care. Char3290 (talk) 03:51, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

To me, ESPN using the name gives sufficient credit to allow for the name to be used as an unofficall, unique name for a rivalry with such a large amount of historical prowess. It seems to me that you stumbled across this wikipedia page by searching up 'the Cascade Clash'. A casual NCAAF fan might search the same thing up after just hearing the name being used on national broadcasting. It brings traffic to this page, and thus, it does it's job in being included in the page. A casual fan might be confused if the name wasn't mentioned in the wikipedia page, but it was in the ESPN broadcasting. Names are developed along time, and created. Because ESPN is using the name, it will likely grow further and further. If you google 'Cascade Clash Football" the Rivaly game will show up 9/10 times. Char3290 (talk) 04:10, 3 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]