Talk:Phrygian cap

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I think a section should discuss the cultural significance of this hat. namely that the smurfs wear 'em. 72.174.2.252 07:10, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Smurfs wear this hat too.

This hat is strikingly similar to Parthian, Persian, and Scythian hats of the classical period. Anyone have a source discussing their relationship?(Kaveh94 (talk) 21:48, 10 October 2010 (UTC))

--Picture?--

Oh my. If the Smurfs get recognition, then a band of Disney midgets called "The Seven Dwarfs" from Snow White's story should get included too. Um, all theirs are red too. User: Bwildasi Mon Jan 19 02:28:55 UTC 2009 —Preceding undated comment was added at 02:18, 19 January 2009 (UTC).


Does anyone have a picture of a live person wearing this cap? --V. Joe 07:26, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

According to the 16th century philosopher Jean Bodin, the cap was 'the auntient marke of a slaue newly enfranchised, to couer his shauen head vntill his haire were growne' (Six Bookes of a Commone-weale, English translation of 1606, p33). Should this be included? - Brodie 14/06/07

Nonsensical statement[edit]

From Section 1: "liberty and barbarism (in the classical sense of non-Greekness, rather than a reference to any lack of civilization)"

Not quite sure what this is supposed to mean. The classical Greeks (i.e. Athenians) did not consider barbaroi to be simply non-Greek but civilized. In fact, the "classical sense" has everything to do with the fact that the Athenians considered non-Athenians to be uncivilized. Additionally, the "lack of civilization" is unclear, as I'm not sure whether the author means civilization, in the sense of a group of people forming a society, or "civilized" culture.

The connection of the Phrygian cap to barbarians is certainly correct, but to say that there is a classical sense of the word which does include the some sort of value judgement is simply false.

Since I've never edited anything before, I thought I would add a comment rather than to make the actual edit, to ensure consensus.

Hursta (talk) 22:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Legend of Zelda[edit]

Does Link from The Legend of Zelda video game series wear a phrygian? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.129.64.1 (talk) 17:59, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Va. flag[edit]

I removed the reference to the flag of Virginia; the standing figure is wearing a helmet, not a cap.

Virginia-American (talk) 03:23, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

... Along the same lines I've removed the reference to Bonne Homme (from the Quebec_City_Winter_Carnival), he wears a toque. Strawmd (talk) 15:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Strasbourg cathedral[edit]

The story of the bonnet rouge hauled to the top of the spire is so familiar that it appears in a New York Times travel piece by wine writer Anthony Peregrine. The statement is likely to be challenged by some passer-by, but a reference would be pretentious and jejune, no?--Wetman 20:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

The story of the bonnet rouge is so familiar that the first sentence of this article used to hoist the notion that "The Phrygian cap is a soft, red, conical cap ... worn in antiquity ...". There is no compelling reason to suppose that the cap was already red in antiquity, so I furled that flag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.15.54.203 (talk) 18:08, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Phrygian cap vs Pileus[edit]

Phrygian cap indicates that the two are different things but the articles on Pileus indicates they are two names for the same thing. We should be consistent. -- Beardo (talk) 04:23, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

American iconography--several additional images[edit]

Several relevant images of a liberty cap in American iconography, which (since they're pre-1900) might be public domain (but ask), are found in a historian's blog post. 11:11, 11 May 2011 (UTC)