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Proposal of another merger[edit]

I propose that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_Integration_Dysfunction be merged in as well. It is a very badly formed article (has a dead link to itself?) and differs in name from the previously merged article simply by capitalization. Bobprime (talk) 01:26, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

proposal of merger[edit]

I move that this page be combind with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensory_integration_dysfunction which is an article about the old name for the same disorder.

DONE — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chibs007 (talkcontribs) 04:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Merge Sensory integration dysfunction into Sensory processing disorder[edit]

I propose that Sensory integration dysfunction be merged into Sensory processing disorder. As is, there is contradictory information in the two articles, as well as duplication, that should be resolved. Since there is more content in the SPD article, and the authors seem to indicate that it is the term of choice at present, that should be the destination article. The SID article is of small size so that the merging will not cause problems with the SPD article size. Popsup (talk) 20:15, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

  • Support. And it would be great if you would manage the problems with the contradictory information! Lova Falk talk 09:09, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. It's the same topic despite some minor contraditions. Merge it. 04:58, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. Researchers and clinicians are moving away from the language of SID, as SPD language was created to be more clear. This is necessary not only for research and clinical work, but more importantly to make the topic more understandable for the layperson.Soontobephd (talk) 16:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. It is important to merge this two categories since they are the same. Sensory Integration was changed to Sensory Processing to avoid confusion with the already existing term of Sensory Integration in the Neurology field which means a completely different thing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chibs007 (talkcontribs) 19:59, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. I have edited and copied the information from the Sensory Integration Dysfunction article, so I think the pieces are ready to merge. Sensory Integration Dysfunction should be deleted. However, I read the merging help and it is a little out of my league, specially since there is much to save from SID's talk page. Chibs007 (talk

HAS BEEN MERGED! Thanks everyone!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chibs007 (talkcontribs) 21:30, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Further reading[edit]

Ok - why are these here? What is their general, secondary source relevance to the article per WP:MEDRS? "Further Reading" is not just a dustbin for primary citations that editors want showcased. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 00:41, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Occupational Therapy for Children does have a chapter "Sensory integration / L. Diane Parham, Zoe Mailloux" as per content listing but would have to ask the editor who added the book or one who has read the book as to its relevence to this article. dolfrog (talk) 02:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
"Raising a sensory smart child : the definitive handbook for helping your child with sensory processing issues" listed content and summary dolfrog (talk) 02:33, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
"Too loud, too bright, too fast, too tight : what to do if you are sensory defensive in an overstimulating world" listed content and summary dolfrog (talk) 02:38, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
"Separating fact from fiction in the etiology and treatment of autism: A scientific review of the evidence." From reading the various secondary review papers in my own PubMed Sensory Processing Disorder paper collection there is some association between SPD and ASD. And this paper also features on the Research Autism web site dolfrog (talk) 02:53, 14 July 2013 (UTC)


  • against I disagree , i have a SPD child, parents need firther reading unless you want to print the pages.it difficult, and as a parent I needed to know ehre to go to read, by myself and figure out my next step for my son. The books listed are widely acceptted as the best in this field, please keep this section in! `Dfillinger — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dawnfillinger (talkcontribs)
  • against I think the same as editor Dfillinger. Books are recognized, indeed, we could add at least 2 more.

Chibs007 (talk) 03:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Reestructuring and separating theories, newest research must be added[edit]

Sensory Processing/Sensory Integration is now a topic that has at least 3 main models that describe and explain the observations. In this article, all the terminology from all the different models is mixed and turns out to be very confusing for an untrained person (but I lack the skills in Wikipedia editing and fluent English to do it myself).

  • The Sensory Integration classical model according to the theory's creator, Dr. Ayres. Her nosology includes: Registry and Orientation difficulties, Sensory defensiveness, Somatodyspraxia, Gravitational insecurity, etc. (developed by analysis of factor clusters) [1]
  • Sensory Integration Dunn model, which creates a nosology using response type (passive vs active) crossed with threshold to the stimuli (low or high) creating 4 types: low registration, sensory avoiding, sensory seeking and sensory sensitive. [2]
  • The Sensory Processing model, created by Dr Jane Miller, proposes a more neurologically based nosology, with 3 main subtypes, modulation disorders, motor based disorder and discrimination disorders. (reference on the main article)

Recently, more research has been coming out on the neurological causes to SPD that has not been cited, but I do not know how to add and restructure without being tendentious. [3] As well, more recent research refusing SPD must be quoted and I believe it all should be arrange under a controversy section.

References

Chibs007 (talk) 12:50, 14 July 2013 (UTC)Chibs007

My copy editing skills are almost non existent, due to my auditory processing disorder, especially my word recall issues. I have found a useful summary of recent progress regarding Sensory Processing Disorder which may suggest a format to improve this article. For instance it may be advisable to introduce some new sections and subsections to help catalog the various subtypes of issue that can be part of SPD. The article includes a useful diagram which may help define the various subtypes. dolfrog (talk) 01:24, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
The article by Lucy Jane Miller et al oncept Evolution in Sensory Integration: A Proposed Nosology for Diagnosis was the editorial article for the March /April 2007 issue of the American Journal of Occupational Therapy, most artcles relate to Sensory Processing Disorder, the Table of Contents may provide more citations options dolfrog (talk) 22:45, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
Diagnosis this paper may be useful Reynolds S, Lane SJ (March 2008). "Diagnostic validity of sensory over-responsivity: a review of the literature and case reports". J Autism Dev Disord 38 (3): 516–29. doi:10.1007/s10803-007-0418-9. PMID 17917804.  dolfrog (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
This paper may be useful in the SPD and ADHD section Ghanizadeh A (June 2011). "Sensory processing problems in children with ADHD, a systematic review". Psychiatry Investig 8 (2): 89–94. doi:10.4306/pi.2011.8.2.89. PMC 3149116. PMID 21852983.  dolfrog (talk) 10:16, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

Upgrade to C class[edit]

I have upgraded this article to C class, however some issues still remain:

  • Controversy regarding recognition should be mentioned in introduction, this is quite important
  • Could use an image
  • Requires significant copyediting
  • Article contains many unsourced statements
  • Article's statements are not written from a third-person passive POV, detracting from their encyclopedic-ness. For example " Each country is encouraged to develop locally relevant programs.[14]" should be written "The [x organisation] encourages the development of locally relevant programs"
  • Specific examples should be written in a more general form, or used as illustrations in the symptoms section. For example: " A child might regularly jump out of his seat in class despite multiple warnings and threats because his poor proprioception (body awareness) causes him to fall out of his seat, and his anxiety over this potential problem causes him to avoid sitting whenever possible" should written in a more general form: "A child's failure to heed warnings or threats may mask an underlying sensory dysfunction" with the example moved to the symptoms section.

I hope this helps improve this interesting and relevant article.

Kind Regards LT90001 (talk) 00:12, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Editing intro for clarity[edit]

It was proposed to use a shorter version of the intro to provide clarity. However, I disagree because it deletes information such as multisensory integration being a neurological process (forcing the person to leave the page to understand the basic intro) and deletes the clarification that the term is mainly used in Occupational Therapy. I have reverted to the old one, but save the suggested one to vote whether to leave the new or the old. ThanksChibs007 (talk) 07:17, 26 July 2013 (UTC)

Sensory processing disorder (or SPD) refers to a group of neurological disorders relating to multisensory integration. A failure to organize sensory inputs, such as proprioception, vision, auditory system, tactile, olfactory, vestibular system, interoception, or taste, results in difficulties in function.

Sensory processing disorder however, is characterized by significant problems organizing sensory inputs and is manifested by difficulties in the performance in one of more of the main areas of occupation: productivity, leisure and play or activities of daily living.[1]

Previously known as Sensory Integration, Sensory processing was defined by Dr Anna Jean Ayres[2][3] in 1972 as "the neurological process that organizes sensation from one's own body and from the environment and makes it possible to use the body effectively within the environment".

SPD and ADHD[edit]

Compiling possible citations for this section SPD and ADHD.

SPD and ADHD collection may take awhile dolfrog (talk) 16:54, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Merge Sensory Defensiveness into Sensory Processing disorder[edit]

Sensory Defensiveness is a subtype of Sensory Processing Disorder, and currently the Sensory defensiveness article only duplicates the content of the main Sensory processing disorder article. dolfrog (talk) 02:37, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Support! Lova Falk talk 14:52, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
Support! User:Chibs007 — Preceding undated comment added 19:53, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Sensory Integration Dysfunction[edit]

Corrected from previous version to have language that does not creates confussion

Welcome User:ASI2020_Vision to this editing group! To the rest of the team User:Dmarquard User:Lova_Falk User:Dolfrog User:LT910001 User:Dawnfillinger User:Lova_Falk Gordonofcartoon Soontobephd User:Yobot User:CoreyemotelaUser:Mogism User:Rjwilmsi [[User:Graham87] ]User:Magioladitis User:Dratman User:Anrnusna I might have missed someone. Feel free to add or answer.

User:ASI2020_Vision has made the change from Sensory processing disorder (SPD) (formerly known as "sensory integration dysfunction") to Sensory processing disorder (SPD) (also known as sensory integration dysfunction). While still refered by many by the last term, there is no diagnosis manual using the term, so it might be confusing information by Wikipedia standings.

Though a minor change, it might prove a highly interesting debate point: In the field that studies and works with SPD, Occupational Therapy, currently there is no concensus in terminology between Ayres Sensory integration group and other schools of thought. In order to avoid Wikipedia:Edit warring I will revert just one time to remain within the 3 revert rule and suggest discussion is held here until decision is taken and we follow the group concensus. If solution is not arrived through the editing group, we could use the Request Comment option.

* Against Chibs007 (talk) 02:38, 24 August 2014 (UTC) 

Since the article is part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine, in order to achieve B or A rate it is not in the best interest for the article to use terminology not accepted in any diagnostical manual. I suggest that section Ayres model can be expanded by User:ASI2020_Vision to comply with their group objectives without entering Disruptive editing or Tendencious editing. Also, a larger new article on Ayres model could be created! (now I am getting greedy!!!)

I don't understand why you'd want to say "formerly" instead of "also", since the term "sensory integration dysfunction" appears in tons of books since 2000. Is there evidence that shows that the condition is no longer known as "sensory integration dysfunction"? Dicklyon (talk) 03:10, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Good point @Dicklyon:. User:ASI2020_Vision now User:ElDelRey1 changed it again anyway and since there is now more concensus, I will leave it like that.

Sensory integration vs sensory processing[edit]

Hi guys, I am coming to this page because I learned today that the SPD page has eaten the sensory integration dysfunction page not too long ago. I am quite alarmed by this action, by the content of the SPD page that claims to inform about sensory integrative dysfunction, as well as the tone of the talk here! "THEIR group" and "OUR goals"... is there a competition going on?!

When I looked things up in Wikipedia I always believed that this was relatively objective information. Unfortunately, the SPD page gives me the impression that information is manipulated intentionally. Let me give you one example that caught my eye just by scanning through: You modified a quote by Dr Ayres that every SI-trained therapist should know to fit your personal preferences. The original reads "Sensory integration is the organization of information blah blah blah". On the SPD page it suddenly reads "Sensory processing is the organization..." even with a reference given, as if Ayres had used the term sensory processing. Another manipulation is the way how Dr Ayres' model is presented as historical and outdated. As you certainly know, Ayres' typology of SI disorder has recently been validated (Mailloux et al., 2011). Among therapists and teachers around the world "SI disorder" is the term that people know and use.

Just to make it clear: I am not considering myself member of any group. I stand for justice, balance, objectivity. I am not dogmatic in the use of either term, sensory processing or sensory integration. I appreciate Lucy's immense research efforts but I do have some serious factual problems with her proposed "nosology" which to me is simply a proposal that was not even well received, and not the universally accepted state of the art as it is presented here.

Why am I writing all of this? I wanted to provide some balanced objective information on sensory integration disorder but each of my attempts was undone within the hour by a user who is obviously affiliated with the SPD page. This feels like harassment! Believe me, it is frustrating! That's why I came to visit the SPD page, and while I love the lots of references, I am generally not happy at what I see here.

I have some suggestions for good cooperation instead of vandalism: 1. Please undo the strange vote on quasi deleting the sensory integration dysfunction page. 2. Please make sure you never make edits without giving a summary and a comment in the talk section (this is also considered good practice on Wikipedia). It is so frustrating when your whole work is gone - as you must know! 3. Please try to get the manipulative aspects out of your page. I'll be happy to help. I guess an outsider has a more objective eye. Regards ElDelRey1 (talk) 06:58, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Sorry you feel like that.

1 You first represented a group. The text on your former user page read: "This user represents a community of professionals dedicated to the proliferation of education and research in Ayres Sensory Integration. Our main goal: Ayres Sensory Integration will have a strong, international presence with demonstrated scholarship, means for valid, comprehensive assessment and pathways for training to ensure the ongoing development, standards of excellence and effective implementation of this important work." You say you are not this user, however, there were not edits done by you and the edits you are talking about are user's ASIS2020_Vision. Hence my assumption.

2 Balance: I did open a discussion and did ask for outside help the moment I read your answer. One reverse process is not harassment. However, changing it again without waiting for consensus is inadequate etiquette. Consensus here might take longer that you want, even months, but you should still follow it. I have not reverted your changes nor will edit on the Sensory Integration Dysfunction page you have created without asking for consensus to undo the merge. I will however ask for 3rd opinion regarding that.

3 Nosology: All the nosologies (except Argentinian one) are described and subject to expansion. The one highlighted is because as I mentioned before, it is the only one published in a Diagnostic Manual and was the one sent to the DSM V for revision.

4 Miller: If there is more research here connected to Miller is because her research is available for free, hence I could read it (not only abstracts) and was able to find the references needed. However, I have not and will not delete or revert the inclusion of other research that complies with Wikipedia. I have no interest in biased information.

Chibs007 (talk) 16:53, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Change in History[edit]

As suggested by a member of Wikiproject Medicine, I changed the name title of the models to avoid using names. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chibs007 (talkcontribs) 10:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)

Links to a treatment center added[edit]

Unidentified user added links to a treatment center. Are those allowed?--Chibs007 (talk) 14:46, 7 April 2015 (UTC)