Talk:Southern marsupial mole

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Objection to the word "Burrowing"

If the experts use the term, I suppose it's not for us to judge, but why in the course of telling us readers that they don't make burrows at all, but rather swim through the sand leaving no burrows at all, does this article call what they do "burrowing"? I know that "burrowing" doesn't mean "making actual burrows" all the time ("My spaniel burrowed his snout under my elbow, trying to wake me up"), but that kind of usage is clearly metaphorical and not the kind of usage you'd expect from an encyclopedia. How about "digging"? Chrisrus (talk) 03:40, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 18 February 2019

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Not Moved per consensus. (non-admin closure) Xain36 {talk} 17:50, 4 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Southern marsupial mole → Itjaritjari – common name widely adopted to replace "unimaginative" name currently used in title. A related move is at marsupial mole, I am working on this unique group of taxa and would appreciate the assistance. cygnis insignis 17:44, 18 February 2019 (UTC)--Relisting. B dash (talk) 14:54, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:22, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A google search for "Southern marsupial mole" -wikipedia currently returns twice as many results as a search for Itjaritjari. Is there evidence that the latter is the common name? --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 18:22, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

detailed at Talk:Marsupial_mole#Requested_move_18_February_2019 and article space at kakarratul. cygnis insignis 19:25, 18 February 2019 (UTC) [this reply [1] was removed [2] reposting and @Ahecht:] cygnis insignis 14:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted the move of kakarratul and asked an admin if it could be bundled in with this one as a multi-move. I have no strong opinion about the naming of the species, but there is obviously no consensus for these changes. Srnec (talk) 00:26, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"asked an admin" where is the diff for that? cygnis insignis 05:45, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here. He said it is too late to bundle them together, so a separate RM has to be opened for the northern species. Unless a clear consensus is obtained here. Srnec (talk) 14:16, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

While we are both hyper-correcting, the user is not an admin. cygnis insignis 15:59, 20 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: the related discussion at Talk:Marsupial mole#Requested move 18 February 2019 has been closed as not moved. bd2412 T 15:31, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. The aboriginal name is also spelled "yitjarritjarri". Scientific name appears to be more commonly used than the current page title which is still more commonly used than either of the aboriginal names. While "Itjaritjari" may eventually become the more common vernacular name, it is not there yet (it's not sufficiently common at present to have results on Google Trends or NGrams, so I can't even tell if it is becoming more common in recent years). Page should really be at the scientific name, as the "name that is most commonly used in reliable sources" (WP:COMMONNAME), and Wikipedia should give up on this hair-brained scheme to pick one of any number of different vernacular names as a unambiguous page title, and use the naming scheme that has served well for the last 250 years (i.e. Linnean binomials). Redirects are perfectly adequate to get readers to article using scientific name titles. Plantdrew (talk) 19:49, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Plantdrew: The group may have begun forest floor dwellers, doing much the same thing, then made the transition to sand. Bloody amazing really. Support that solution, the trend for misinterpreting COMMONNAME has had its time: all the names get context instead of vox pop elevation to The One True Name (no capitals, except …) and the page is defined by our sources. Yet some do not like solutions, and know they are right. cygnis insignis 20:45, 25 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. It is not clear that the aboriginal name has become the common name in English. Rreagan007 (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Rreagan007, apart from the authority that says otherwise, I may of course be misinterpreting it and you could show how. What should the title be? Would you like to learn another interesting fact about this animal that isn't in the article yet? cygnis insignis 08:48, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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