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A fact from Stave Falls Dam and Powerhouse appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 2 July 2011 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the Stave Falls Dam (original power house pictured), completed in 1912 and formerly the largest source of hydroelectric power in British Columbia, is a Canadian National Historic Site?

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I did make a mistake and upon looking further it was slave falls not stave falls i do apologize for any trouble this might have caused thanks dave but i do have all the said photographs I currently own vintage photographs of this site under construction and photos of it dating back to 1930 inside as construction went on and night views these were all taken by my grandfather on a visit and one photo of the damm one out of only 92 ever made please get in touch if interested thanks mdrl44@msn.com ~Dave L

Comments from Dave Lahn, added to article here; placed on talk. --NortyNort (Holla) 15:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- I have a few from Manitoba, too - Slave Falls and Point du Bois, my Dad worked at both in the '30s and probably knew your grandfather. Who knows he may be in one of the pictures. Skookum1 (talk) 17:27, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

name issue; suggested RM or reasons for one[edit]

This is not an RM just a discussion. The Stave Falls project (hm capital p?) dunno is two dams, the other one being the Blind Slough Dam, just above the site of the original waterfall; not sure if the intermediary bit of land between the tailrace and the original river's course below the Blind Slough had a name, I'm not sure it was an island in fact, it might have been part of the "mainland" on the west, I've never seen drawings of the site really, one or two old pics but never an overview (shots of the Red Bridge and the canyon where Ruskin Dam is now are to be found online though - beautiful). Stave Falls Powerhouse and Dams seems a bit contrived, and both dam names together would be too long. Stave Falls Power Project maybe is less common than Stave Falls Development; or Stave River Power Company or whatever the original developer was (I should know but don't just now), but that would be the company article for the whole Stave-Alouette-Ruskin Development (or "Power Development", I've seen both I think. I'll add WikiProject Architecture to this page, if not here already. And a picture of the old free-standing elevator-tower, unless I did already; I only just came to the talkpage now, haven't looked at this in ages. Certain design firms worked for the power companies in those days; there's a distinct "look" to BCER and related holdings, including the style of dam (e.g. concrete shell dams are not that common in BC, not big ones anyway); older ones are sort of a classical Gothic - pointed out to me by a cultural geography professor as part of the Scottish legacy of early engineering in BC, and re the electric railway buildings and hydro project designs. That's unpublished hearsay a no and not meant to be original research, just suggested details about these structures and their builders....would be cool if someone took on the Stave Branch railway article; not sure there was a station as such, other than a shelter; the old Ruskin CPR station was CPR design of course (nice, like Mission's). This article could also use more on the hydro townsite below the dam, which I think was as many as 200 homes for a long time and still had a good dozen older workers and families living in it when I was in school; like the Ruskin townsite, it has its own history separate from that of Stave Gardens - the area west around Bell Road, even though the Stave Gardens School was right at the dam, or just before it. The railway continued working after Hayward Lake was created, and served the big mills on the left shore of Stave Lake, which were huge. Can't remember their names. McMahon Lumber maybe, though they were in Mission too if so. Anyways the name seems to need rejigging, to what I don't know. After a discussion here ensues, if it does, a name may present itself that makes sense; how to include the reality of two dams in the title; if not just using "FOO Power Project" or "FOO Power Project"...and what sequence of Stave-Alouette-Ruskin is used in the company's brochures and sites. I had the brochures, still in storage somewhere, not sure if the current name online is the same; I'll check later.Skookum1 (talk) 17:45, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well the official Historic Site name is "Stave Falls Hydro-Electric Installation". These names though, like the NRHP, are often not the common or proper name. BC Hydro calls Stave Falls the "Stave Falls Dam" or "Stave Falls Dam and Powerhouse", similar to the Ruskin Dam. When I started both articles I just left it at "XXXX Dam" to keep it simple and common. Many dams have 'auxiliary' (or 'saddle') dams that help make the reservoir. Blind Slough is both an auxiliary dam and a spillway. This is the only case I can recall where one of these dams has a separate name. And never has the installation referred to itself as "XXXX Dams". I prefer leaving the name as it is and see no reason to change it further or over-complicate the name.--NortyNort (Holla) 18:34, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hm OK then; I'll make that redlink into a redirect.....not sure there's pics of the Blind Slough already avaiable, I may have some usable ones....Skookum1 (talk) 11:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Sounds good.--NortyNort (Holla) 20:15, 10 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

deleted Braches (talk) 21:48, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References[edit]

Veltri, Christopher. "Stave Falls". Mission Museum. Retrieved 25 June 2011.

Can't locate this reference at the Nission Museum or the Mission Community Archives or anywhere else. Seems to be an arrticle or a paper of some kind -- it is nota a book. Info please? Thanks Braches (talk) 21:45, 26 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]