Talk:Stephen Hales

Stephen Hales was a Natural sciences good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.

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March 26, 2012	Good article nominee	Not listed

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Can he be regarded as a chemist ? Internet sources say he can't. Can someone verify this fact? Kpjas 15:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Difficult issue as the distinction between scientific disciplines was much less clear then than now. Hales is mentioned as a chemist in the Encyclopaedia Britannica, 9th Edition (1875) and 10th Edition (1902)(http://www.1902encyclopedia.com/C/CHE/chemistry-008.html), although his contributions in this field seem fairly minor and I personally wouldn't have considered him a major figure in the history of chemistry (talk) 06:45, 23 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It seems that Hales is viewed as a major figure in Pneumatic chemistry. I will try and deal with this in my (on-going) revision of this article.Adh (talk) 00:08, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Works by Stephen Hales at Project Gutenberg[edit]

This is surprisingly empty but added in the expectation that it will fill out and dare I say, perhaps finding it empty some philanthropist will assist in said filling ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by DadaNeem (talk • contribs) 01:03, 2 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

On my to do list Adh (talk) 00:09, 7 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: Sasata (talk · contribs) 14:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'll review this article. I hope to have comments up in a few days. Sasata (talk) 14:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

lead is too short to adequately summarize the article's contents
according to this source, the image is of him at age 82
I think it's useful if the infobox shows the age at death; see template:Infobox scientist on how to make it do this
suggested links: succeeded, divinity, Fellow, ordained, Perpetual Curate, Bachelor, parish, Rector
perhaps add a couple of words to inform us who is Gilbert White
give first name of Lavoisier for consistency with others
Hales, through his work on animal physiology & dog/horse ensanguination, also described hemorrhagic shock (from Macklem 2010)
related to the above, there's no mention of the gruesomeness of his animal experiments; apparently Thomas Twining (scholar) included a verse about his work in his poem The Boat (see Harré 1981, p. 58); that might be worth a mention (or even blockquote)
I thought it interesting that Hales' method of determining arterial blood pressure is still being used (Pichaicharnarong et al. (2001). "The measurement of swamp buffalo ( Bubalus bubalis) arterial blood pressure by the Stephen Hales method" Thai Journal of Veterinary Medicine 31(3):49–53); might this be worth a mention?
A citation is needed for the genus of trees being named after him. Are there no other taxa named in his honor?
please provide page numbers to the citations for book references, it will make it easier to verify statements. Also, was the original (1929) version of Clark-Kennedy used, or the reprint (1965)?
anything useful to add from these unused sources:

Floto, F. (1999). "Stephen Hales and the cohesion theory". Trends in plant science. 4 (6): 209. PMID 10366875.
Skyes, AH. (1987). "The restoration of the tomb of Stephen Hales" Veterinary History 4(4): 133–137
JSTOR 531624
James PJ. (1985). "Stephen Hales' "statical way"." History and Philosophy of the Life Sciences 7(2): 287–99
Jarcho S. (1983). "Some excerpts from the writings of Stephen Hales, with comment on their relation to the concept of heart failure". Transactions & studies of the College of Physicians of Philadelphia 5(1): 19–28
Bloch H. (1978). "Rev. Stephen Hales, D.D., F.R.S. (1677-1761)." The Journal of the Medical Society of New Jersey 75(9): 625–7.
Clark-Kennedy AE. (1977). "Stephen Hales, DD, FRS" British Medical Journal 2(6103): 1656–8
Cohen IB. (1976). "S Hales" Scientific American 234(5): 98–107
Hoff et al. (1965). "The contributions of the horse to knowledge of the heart and circulation. 1. Stephen Hales and the measurement of blood pressure" "Connecticut Medicine" 29(11): 795–800
Foregger, R. (1956). "Two Types of Respiratory Apparatus of Stephen Hales". Anaesthesia. 11 (3): 235–240. doi:10.1111/j.1365-2044.1956.tb07978.x. PMID 13340200.

might there be any information from sources in the "Further reading" section that could be used to expand the article's coverage?

REfs 3, 5, 18, 19, are not up to snuff. 512bits (talk) 19:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No response from the nominator (who hasn't edited since March 16), so I'll have to fail this nomination. Hopefully these comments will be useful for future improvement. Sasata (talk) 17:15, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thanks for the comments - very helpful. Sorry I wasnt able to deal with them or reply earlier, I will address the comments in a future improvement when I get time. Adh (talk) 23:05, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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