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The Vestal Virgins were prostitutes??? Certainly some people have claimed so, but haven't others maintained they were indeed virgins? Which of these two classes of people is better informed? Having intercourse with a Vestal Virgin could result in a death sentence in Rome. I wish I knew more about this, but surely the claim that Vestal Virgins were prostitutes is not universally held and should be attributed? Hoping someone can educate me... -- Someone else 02:04 Nov 26, 2002 (UTC)
- I suspect modern fantasy as well here. There were several groups of sacred prostitutes in the ancient world, but I've never heard such a claim made about the Vestal virgins. It just doesn't fit in with the character of the deity in question, either; sacred prostitutes worshipped Aphrodite, or Astarte, or Cotys, but not Hestia/Vesta. -- IHCOYC 02:33 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)
"It burned until AD 394." Why did the fire go out? --Jen savage 19:18, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- The roof leaked. Actually, in 394, Emperor Theodosius forbade public pagan worship, and so the temple was forced to close. Smerdis of Tlön 20:06, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
- 391 actually (I fixed the date): the "Theodosian decrees". The "prostitutes" thing must have been pubescent humor. But this is quite serious I suspect: "The Vestales were one of the few full time clergy positions in Roman religion. " Oh my goodness gracious!
- Now recite these galloping dactyls aloud:
- Higgledy-Piggledy venerate Vesta, the Goddess of hearth, on the ninth day of June. Priestesses known for their Vestal-virginity tended the flame and kept Romans immune.
- — Wetman 01:13, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
The Vestal Virgins were incredibly high class in Roman society. I think they could get away with not really being virgins.
Copyright violation, from a novel no less!
"Goddess of the Hearth she was the symbol of the home, around which a newborn child must be carried before it could be received into the family. Every meal began and ended with an offering to her:
Vesta, in all dwellings of men and immortals
Yours is the highest honor, the sweet wine offered
First and last at the feast, poured out to you duly.
Never without you can gods or mortals hold banquet.
Each city too had a public hearth sacred to Vesta, where the fire was never allowed to go out. If a colony was to be founded, the colonists carried with them coals from the hearth of the mother-city with which to kindle the fire on the new city's hearth."
This entire section has been directly copied from Edith Hamilton's novel Mythology with the exception that the word "Vesta" has replaced "Hestia". I see that it is referenced at the end of the article but that DOES NOT make it okay to copy the complete section without putting quotation marks. I don't mean to sound overly critical, I just don't want to see anyone get in trouble as this currently infringes on copyright laws set by the publisher. I suggest that this be changed immediately, either by changing the wording or by adding appropriate quotation marks. Until this is changed, I will place a tag over the above mention section where it appears in the article. This shouldn't be too difficult to do; I'll try to fix some of it though I would really love if someone could help. Thanks. --France3470 22:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- On the note of Edith Hamilton's Mythology as well, it certainly cannot be the only reference for all this information as she barely talks about Hestia/Vesta at length. I believe the references section might need to be expanded as information of Vesta is hardly common knowledge. Maybe some footnotes could be added to help improve the credibility of the article. Since I know a bit on this topic I'll see what I can do to improve the article.--France3470 22:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
The article is not correct, the sacrifice of an unborn calf by the Vestales happened in the festival of the Fordicidia, on April 15th. Same mistake in the French article.Aldrasto (talk) 12:31, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
References and sources
I am new to Wikipedia and I am not accostumed to the use of the relevant software, I apologise to the reader for not giving quotations and citations in the usual way. I see somebody, perhaps the administrator of this page, asks me to improve the article because it does not give citiations. Frankly I am puzzled as I have started by saying "according to Dumezil" and "Ovid says" below. Before I made the additions the article was totally uncited , but nobody put the request for sources above it. Now I have given the relevant biliographic info on which I based my additions at the foot of the page in the notes section and somewhere in the text too. I wonder whether there is a certain selectivity here as totally unsourced articles are let alone but as something new comes by it is asked for citations even when they are stated rather clearly.Aldrasto (talk) 04:26, 29 December 2009 (UTC) BTW who is the administrator? would you mind dropping me a line here below? Thank you.Aldrasto (talk) 10:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
The article is almost completed. I shall refrain from editing parts written by ealier contributors. Due to a loss of session data and mismanoeuvering I was not logged in during my last editings.Aldrasto (talk) 12:37, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I find this discussion of a Roman Goddess is instead a false history by someone with a politcal agenda. How? The entire article is about some spurious connection with Vedic sources for Western mythology. This is an example of the progressive "historians" to denigrate and minimize western civilization. Keep your eastern influences in context. Say, maybe in the Vedic articles. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 23:25, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
" This is an example of the progressive "historians" to denigrate and minimize western civilization. Keep your eastern influences in context. " 188.8.131.52, you are an Idiot.
Perhaps in disorder?
Dumézil stuff in section Theology paragraphs 2-6 seems more like comparative religion than theology. It doesn't fit in the beginning of the section, since the reader expects Roman theology/mythology/whatever – not Vedic. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 16:33, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
This entire article kind of a joke.
Honestly, it's in complete disarray. More than half the article (yes, really) focuses on comparative Vedic practices, more specifically, that of the now somewhat discredited Dumézil (in the field of religion, that is); obviously, someone is a fan. The Latin is sloppy; it uses non-standard forms, from different periods. I came here looking to read about Vesta, not see veneration of Dumézil (who is a philologist), and a hodge podge of original research. There also seems to be several editors with religious agendas; a look at the talk page lists some of the more obvious vandalism (i.e. prostitution), but I'm quite sure there are other less noticeable insertions we've overlooked. I'll sort through it when I have time, but almost everything I have available to me is a primary source, so I'm not sure how much I could help, given the need for secondary sources.
Who authored the bulk of this article? And inserted the prostitution thing? I'd dare say these peoples' edits should be watched carefully from now on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 05:55, 15 January 2015 (UTC)