Talk:Wavin' Flag

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Involvement with Coca Cola!?[edit]

This song (the celebration mix) or at least part of it was used in previous coca cola commercials, BEFORE the world cup AND before the single. The commercial was made in 2007, the single in 2008. Check out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1NnyE6DDnQ ... The celebration mix contains the characteristic coca cola tones. Does someone know the background? I think this is vital information: I experience a strong association with Coca Cola when hearing this song, so whenever this song is broadcast on the radio it feels like a free Coca Cola ad to me. Please someone find out the details and publish them! This is an absolutely BRILLIANT marketing strategy by Coca Cola though! I will try to add some text to the article to describe the way the tones were mixed into the celebration mix. Please do not remove this as I feel it is a very important piece of information about this song. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.87.147.223 (talk) 12:40, 14 June 2010 (UTC)

To musical maniacs[edit]

Does some musical expert could check out that? The chords progression of some verses' parts reminds me several classical pieces, namely the Pachelbel's Cannon, (edited) used in so many pop songs. The chorus part reminds me the popular c f am g progression (like in Mika's We are golden). As I'm not on these musical experts, I might be wrong. That's why I ask this question. 83.112.22.152 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:59, 1 April 2010 (UTC).

Celebration Mix…[edit]

I think that "Original version" and "Celebration mix" subsections should be combined. It should be discussed in the article that the song was reworked for the World Cup, but as the World Cup nears and this song begins to chart in countries outside of Canada, it will chart as "Wavin' Flag" as shown on the Swiss Chart website and acharts.us, the same way it charted in Canada. Chele9211 (talk) 16:30, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

World Cup 2010[edit]

I thought Wavin' Flag was the anthem for the world cup. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roo101 (talkcontribs) 11:06, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Lyrics[edit]

Should lyrics really be in the article? Ostalocutanje (talk) 10:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Unofficial versions in the list?[edit]

Hello everybody! Maybe somebody who knows good sources should have a look at the list of the international versions. Some of them don't seem to be official releases. That Mongolian(?) version (which by no mean is bad) doesn't even include K'naan. It is, however, sung in four languages, i.e. English, Spanish, Arabic and the remaining must then be Mongolian. In the YouTube commons it says something about non-professional releases. Can anyone help? --79.234.161.174 (talk) 20:52, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

Totally agree. Youtube shouldn't be used as reference for the release at all, since there are many fan remixed or created, that now cause confusion to determine the original remixes and the fan one. --Harley Hartwell (talk) 11:53, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
(The IP above is me) You are absolutely right about YouTube, Hattori-Kun. I'm not even sure if the links should be there at all (legality?). I know many people are glad they are there, so was I, but on other wikis they wouldn't survive for more than 5 minutes. Anyways, I checked Coke press releases and K'naan pages but I couldn't find an official listing there. --Kazu89 ノート 18:17, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
Alright. I found only 3 of their official release, but not from either K'Naan or Coke page, instead they are on artist's official Website. I still don't know if this can be used as a source, anyway. (Note, Hattori-kun and G(x) are the same one. Just request name change.) --G(x) (talk) 00:16, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
Here's mine:
HTH --Kazu89 ノート 08:30, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Very helpful. Thanks! but what will we do next. Hide one that cannot determined as original collaboration, or remove it entirely, or keep it ? --G(x) (talk) 11:22, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm not sure, either. I think we could hide them (comment them out) at least for a while and decide later on. Maybe it will trigger some sort of attention and/or reaction. Also, please ignore that Haitian press release I posted above for the moment. It was the only more or less professional report about the song and I'm no more convinced of the source's trustworthyness. --Kazu89 ノート 14:44, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Wassup kazu & heiji, doesn't wikipedia have some stupid policies about primary sources not being valid citations? All this wikipedia talk confuses me :S... 24.87.65.195 (talk) 19:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
You are right, anonymous. However, you have to imagine Wikipedia like, say, a country, i.e. a lot of people doing a lot of things many of which don't follow the rules. And, what is more, en.wiki is not my home wiki, I'm not completely familiar with all its policies. Also, I think we can't completely remove the list as it's confirmed that there are official bilingual versions of the song. If you have an idea how we can best solve this issue, please let us know. --Kazu89 ノート 13:45, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Although several rules in Thai Wikipedia (my home wiki) derived from the rule here, neither Kazu nor me are completely familiar with English Wikipedia since our home wiki is not here, but others. I would actually tagged the bilingual section as under discussion, but I can't seems to find the right template one. Besides, real life concern dragged me away from monitoring Wikipedia. Well, the nutshell to this section is
We are wondering if all bilingual versions of Wavin' Flag, writing on the article, are all officials, or some of them are fan-made. If it is fan-made, it shouldn't be added here. If one is here, the others will follow, and this article would never provide information as articles suppose to. One of the example we wondered is the Mongolian version, featuring the Arabic and Spanish lyrics in the song, is the fan-made one or the official one.
Any suggestions to solve the issue are welcome. --G(x) (talk) 10:01, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
A few days I just come back with the new source, which can be used since it comes from The Coca-Cola Company's official website. This fact sheet, published on May 27, 2010, confirmed the following version as their official colleborations. (Other unofficial versions not included below, but can still be compared to the article) --G(x) (talk) 05:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
  • Yes check.svg DoneJapan: "Wavin' Flag" (Wavin' Flag~Sekai ni Hitosu no Ki (ウェイヴィン・フラッグ~世界に一つの旗?)) by K'naan and Ai
The Russian version is official, it is on K'naan's YouTube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC8KuyPNWmo The video was initially blocked because of some legal issues (that's why it has few views right now), but it has been unlocked recently. It was released in July, that's why it's not included in that fact sheet from March. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.110.182.238 (talk) 23:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Also, if you know Russian, you can check out this site: http://football.cocacola.ru/ There was a Coca Cola contest, and St1m (the Russian rapper) was one of the judges. There is a short info page on him telling about his collaboration with K'naan. Here's a screenshot: http://i51.tinypic.com/314audt.jpg 86.110.182.238 (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Very good song, both versions, but ..[edit]

I'm not sure the treatment here is ideal. Could we perhaps adjust the intro and body to discuss the song's meaning slightly earlier in the article? I just feel it's best that we acknowledge more quickly that there are two versions and how the original was motivated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.2.155.250 (talk) 17:09, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

We appreciate your request and are trying to address your concerns about what is actually the original about Somalia, and what is a remake be it for Haiti (charity) or for FIFA (promotional). Here is a beautiful live rendition in San Francisco with the original Troubadour lyrics for Somalia that was a hit just in Canada. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4mrRgDWOl8 The performance is from June 15th, 2009 when Haiti earthquake hadn't happened and FIFA was way way in the future. And here are the coveted original lyrics that K'naan followers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk_03ifD7l4 with not much relation to what the world heard with the FIFA release... -- werldwayd (talk) 06:52, 23 July 2013 (UTC)