Talk:Xeni Jardin

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[edit] Archived talk

  • /Archive 0: February 28-May 1. Xeni's name history discussion
  • /Archive 1: March 27-April 19th. Discussion of xenisucks.com relevancy and strawpoll on including link.
  • /Archive 2: February 28-May 1. Confirmation of birthplace and family, Career, Xeni Jardin has editted her entry
  • /Archive 3: april 7 - april 25. inactive criticism and criticism redux.
  • /Archive 4: May 1 - May 17. Birth year. Criticism discussion and RfC that led to the second consensus.

[edit] Later comment on consensus summary

your "concensus" has created a reference-heavy, almost misleading article. i'll try to fix it up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jjlira (talkcontribs) . June 7, 2006

[edit] Broken link target

somebody retargeted the 8th source (lat article, something about google) with the link that edits the article on xeni, can somebody who knows what they're doing fix this please

[edit] How is it 5 years and still no consensus on her real name?

Cary Grant was born "Archibald Leach." Prince was born "Prince Rogers Nelson." Lady Gaga was born "Stefani Joanne Angelina Germanotta." I found this out on Wikipedia. Xeni Jardin was not born "Xeniflorès Jardin." How is it that Wikipedia cannot inform us what her birth name is?--Petzl (talk) 10:24, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

If you would bother to read one of the references in the article (currently ref. #4) you will see the quote, "Xeni Jardin, pronounced SHEH-nee zhar-DAN, isn't her given name. Jardin doesn't reveal that, she says, because she wants to avoid dangerous people from her past." That should explain why Wikipedia has not sent out a private investigator to dig up her real name, thank you. --Skol fir (talk) 16:40, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
I might add that she herself has weighed in on the issue here, at Talk:Xeni_Jardin/Archive_0, and insists that her current legal name is "Xeni Jardin." She also denies any other names that have been floating out there in cyberspace. Really, who cares what her birth name was? If she does not want to reveal it herself, maybe we should just respect her wishes. This is a BLP, after all, where privacy must be protected. --Skol fir (talk) 17:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

You actually think that she's concerned about "dangerous people in her past"? What use is her name being shielded when her image is constantly in the media? When I read the "dangerous people" quote it appeared obvious to me that that was a tongue-in-cheek reference. For someone who is in the Witness Protection Program, yes, Wikipedia can relent, but someone who is a public figure should enjoy no such license. People who seek privacy don't become internet bloggers or TV personalities. Sure, some facts about BLP shouldnt be in WP (eg, current address), but something as basic as a name, especially for a public figure, should be in WP.--Petzl (talk) 08:35, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

I repeat, for a BLP, "If she does not want to reveal it herself, maybe we should just respect her wishes." Did you not read her own contribution to the discussion at her Talk Page? Her rights trump yours in this case. --Skol fir (talk) 16:19, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
Got it. We do have to record her assumed name, and the various, eccentric pronunciations and contractions of her assumed name, but we (or perhaps just myself, you seemed very specific), are forbidden from the Tree of Knowledge of her actual birth name.--Petzl (talk) 01:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
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