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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by PanydThe muffin is not subtle 18:58, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

The Poznań[edit]

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Created/expanded by The C of E (talk). Self nom at 15:15, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

  • Creation date, Article length and hook all OK. Original blurb is the best selection out of the two.
      – HonorTheKing (talk) 21:30, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Article is currently categorized as a stub, which makes it ineligible for DYK. It needs to be improved at least to Start status. Furthermore, the first hook, which is suggested as preferable, is grammatically confusing: what it actually says is that The Poznań was copied by the fans after they played Lech Poznań. That's a group of fans playing against an odd name (which is a team). What you want is a team (Manchester City) playing another team. Assuming the article is destubbed, how's this hook:
You might also want to specify the sport for benefit of those who won't know this is football (soccer). —BlueMoonset (talk) 23:04, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I've recategorised it and I'm happy to go with the change of hook however I certainly don't want the slang word soccer in there. The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 07:28, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
The previous stub categorization was made by an independent reviewer (and one who works on DYK) when the article was the same length and organization as now; can you please add a bit more material? (See my talk page reply to your post there for a suggestion or two.) For the hook, would "association football" work? (Plain "football" would not, due to inevitable confusion with American football.) Also, "Grecques" does not match your source (which uses "Grecque"), and there is no source given for its 1961 origin, a key piece of information. Can these please be addressed? Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 13:36, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
I would have no problem at all with the use of association football. Regarding the 1961 sourcing, I've found a source for it but as its in a foreign language, you may have to run it through a translator but it's the best I could find as the English refs to 1961 were all in blogs. I've also changed "Greques" to "a Greque". The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 14:24, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
Great find for 1961! It seems clear enough from context what the 1961 refers to. I've expanded the bare ref. Here's the hook with "association football" added to it as an ALT3 for the promoting editor to work with; I've placed the phrase earlier because it reads better despite having two linked phrases in a row. Please let me know if it's still okay, and I'll okay this. The article's now up over 1600 characters, and I think is beyond a stub. (Note: just saw your new source; will expand the bare ref, and it's also useful for pinning the start of City's usage to November 2010.)
OK, I'm happy with that. (Although originally I was thinking of using the word "stolen" instead of "copied" but I don't think the sources would have supported that!) The C of E. God Save The Queen! (talk) 16:06, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
  • Article now at start class, ALT3 hook approved. Good to go! BlueMoonset (talk) 16:19, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
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