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Conflict of interest in Wikipedia

Hi 129.176.197.23 I work on conflict of interest issues here in Wikipedia. Your edits to date on the Scrambler therapy seem to focused on Giuseppe Marineo's role in the development of that product, and on promoting those products' efficacy. I'm giving you notice of our Conflict of Interest guideline and Terms of Use, and will have some comments and requests for you below.

Hello, 129.176.197.23. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:

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Comments and requests

Wikipedia is a widely-used reference work and managing conflict of interest is essential for ensuring the integrity of Wikipedia and retaining the public's trust in it. As in academia, COI is managed here in two steps - disclosure and a form of peer review. Please note that there is no bar to being part of the Wikipedia community if you want to be involved in articles where you have a conflict of interest; there are just some things we ask you to do (and if you are paid, some things you need to do).

Disclosure is the most important, and first, step. While I am not asking you to disclose your identity (anonymity is strictly protecting by our WP:OUTING policy) would you please disclose if you have some connection with Giuseppe Marineo or any of the companies that sell Scrambler devices? You can answer how ever you wish (giving personally identifying information or not), but if there is a connection, please disclose it. After you respond (and you can just reply below), perhaps we can talk a bit about editing Wikipedia, to give you some more orientation to how this place works. Please reply here - I am watching this page. Thanks! Jytdog (talk) 18:24, 16 March 2016 (UTC) ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Greetings! This is Charles Loprinzi M.D., the author of the changes that were suggested for Scrambler Therapy on Wikipedia. I am a medical oncologist that works at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, MN. I have a long history of conducting over 100 clinical trials dealing with symptom control research, that being research aimed at trying to prevent and/or treat and/or better understand symptoms caused by cancer and/or cancer therapy.

Along this line, chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy has been a major research interest over the last decade. I served as the senior author on American Society of Clinical Oncology clinical practice guidelines for chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy. [Of note, Wikipedia data on chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy could stand to be updated.]

In looking at chemotherapy-induced peripheral neuropathy, I became familiar with Scrambler therapy. When I initially heard of it, I thought it sounded quite crazy. Nonetheless, based on work from a respected colleague who thought it was helpful, I began exploring this topic. With regards to your question about conflict of interest, the Mayo Clinic did accept Scrambler machines and supplies (from companies that make and/or market this product; provided to Mayo Clinic, not to me) to evaluate this therapy. Our work on this topic started about 5 years ago. In addition to the review article noted below, I am the senior author on one of the manuscripts provided as a reference.

Along the way, I have met Giuseppe Marineo and multiple other investigators who have had interest in this treatment approach. These interactions have allowed me to learn more about this treatment approach.

I am the senior author on a recent manuscript that reviewed the world’s literature regarding Scrambler therapy. This is currently in press and should be available on-line either this month or early next month.

In looking at what Wikipedia said about Scrambler therapy, there is a box at the top that states “This article needs more medical references for verification or relies too heavily on primary sources. Please review the contents of the article and add the appropriate references if you can. Unsourced or poorly sourced material may be challenged and removed (April 2015)”

In response to the above, I did provide edits which you have seen.

With regards to your recent message, I take issue with the following statement that you made: “your edits to date on the Scrambler therapy seem too focused on Giuseppe Marineo’s role in the development of that product.” I take issue with this as I did not mention his name (other than as an author in some of the references that I provided). The statement about him was already in the previously published version. I just didn’t remove the first part of what was there, that had this statement.

With regards to your claim that my edits are “promoting those products efficacy,” I think that I provide a quite balanced outcome. I do reference 20 published reports (in response to the request that further information be referenced). I do note that all of the authors of the published manuscripts do end up claiming that they are impressed that the therapy works (a true statement). I also note that the utility of Scrambler therapy has not been proven, as much as would be desired, and that more research is ongoing.

This current communication is being sent through my secretary, Vicki.

I would be happy enough to have my name associated with these edits. And I am happy enough to communicate with you by email. My email address is cloprinzi@mayo.edu.

If you would like to see a pre-print version of the review manuscript, I would be happy to provide this by email, assuming that you would keep it confidential until it is published online.

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss this issue.

If, in the end, you don’t want the updated information that I provided, then I will move on to other ongoing projects that keep me plenty busy.

Sincerely,

Charles Loprinzi, M.D.--129.176.197.23 (talk) 19:00, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply! You didn't have to reveal your personal identity, and just so you know, I don't care, and I don't necessarily believe you (and I don't disbelieve you; i just don't care) We have no way to verify people's identities and so claims of personal authority are more or less irrelevant here. Please don't be offended by that... if you decide to really enter into the strange world that is Wikipedia, that will eventually make sense to you - there really is a deep sense to this place and how it operates, but it takes some time to wrap your head around. For now, you may want to read the helpful essay, WP:EXPERT. Please also do read Wikipedia:Conflicts of interest (medicine) which has useful information for medical professionals who are "early adopters" in their field.

About the sources you chose, please see WP:MEDRS. What that boils down to, is that in Wikipedia, what we consider to be reliable sources for content about health, are reviews in the biomedical literature, or statements by major health authorities. We do not write review articles ourselves from the research papers that have been published, and that is basically what you created. It is a common error that experts make when they come here. This is discussed a bit in the EXPERT essay I linked to above.

I do encourage you to consider creating an account and entering more deeply. We do love experts here (ones that are willing to learn our strange ways). if you decide to sign up, please let me know and I can get you oriented and introduced to some folks. There is a mini-community within Wikipedia called WikiProject Medicine and there are lots of doctors who are part of it - we keep as close an eye as we can on articles about medicine and health and try to maintain high quality in them. Jytdog (talk) 19:58, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Note - I sent that message to the email provided as well. Jytdog (talk) 20:11, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

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